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Session to open at 9:00 am
Called to order at 9:04 am
Russell S. – please settle down. I’ve asked Laurie to bring us together in prayer
Laurie R. – reads St. Francis prayer and recites the serenity prayer
Russell S. – it is 9:06 am and I have asked Renzo to read a Vision for You
Renzo P. – reads A Vision for You in Dutch
David L. – reads A Vision for You in English
Russell S. – please prepare for roll call. Please don’t take this personally but do not announce it if you are a part of a committee subcommittee, only if you are a chair. I know you are proud, but this makes it a little long. There are some proxies in action now, if you’ve been proxied a vote, just announce your 2 votes.
Votes 175
Quorum 116
Russell S. – thank you for an incredible roll call. Vicki, anything from you?
Vicki R. – we got a good report from the hotel. We’ll have boxed lunches today as well. Come see me if you have questions.
Russell S. – where there are mixed feelings of business meetings, we are going to pass a bucket for the 7th tradition today.
There were some questions yesterday regarding internal guidelines. They do not need to be passed on the floor. Public information wanted to pass their guidelines on the floor regardless. You were all correct, internal guidelines are not required to be passed on the floor. Thank you.
Jenn S. – aren’t internal docs available on the ca.org website?
Russell S. this body asked Public information to bring them, but now we don’t want that. They are not on pi.ca.org. If they are online, I don’t know what to say about that. I am only giving a history.
Jason L. – at the beginning of the conference, you mentioned there are several positions available at the dais.
Russell S. – both secretaries are up for election. I will speak to this later when the time comes.
IT please get yourselves ready as we pass the 7th baskets.
Russell S. – the IT committee report is in the box. I believe you may have some minor issues that you would like to go on the record with this report.
Wesley B. – yes
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Wesley B. – read report as written-. Our committee has grown a bit as you can see. The IT handbook is being revised. We will also be advancing our approach to social media. We need to remember what it takes to protect our fellowship. We are also looking at website requirements. We are launching a Virtual subcommittee with Miriam. This effort starts now. Tech and examination of the ca.org website will be reviewed. Here is our video that we would like to share with you. Video being shown, it will have a time counter of your sobriety date, meeting finder, meetings in your area and it will also provide you a map with directions to get to that meeting. We are excited to present this today. We will also be creating a database of your meetings and if you could send that back to us, that would be great. We will be able to give each area a plug in for your area meetings for update.
Duane M. – please line up for questions.
Jacqueline R. – how will all areas be able to update their meetings?
Wesley B. – it will be a living document
Kimberley Covey – thank you, my question has just been answered.
Susan B. – how will online meetings be handled in the map
Wesley B. – there will be no map for these meetings
John B. – Amazing work, thank you. This is light years ahead. Where will the database be held? In the cloud?
Wesley B. – yes and it will be owned by wso
John B. – you mentioned it will be hosted by the office and each area will have access?
Wesley B. – yes
Miriam F. – is there going to be one point of contact for areas to email in changes etc? Will it be in a timely manner?
Wesley B. – ideally, yes
Johan T. – the database will be in a central place. The area will have updated areas for meetings.
Henry A. – apps have to be gotten from the app store. What will it be called?
Wesley B. – that will be up to the conference floor when it is brought here for naming.
AJ R. – if the area chairs can update the info, should IT verify this info? Will there be a process?
Wesley B. – yes, we want accurate information and ensure we have the most recent information
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Jason N. – you mentioned someone will check local websites for disclaimers, etc. what else are they looking for
Wesley B. – just making sure you are follow the IT handbook
Daniel S. – is there a plan to put a zoom access – a one touch process to access meetings in this format? Wesley B. – yes
Bob K. – will maps from Europe be included
Wesley B. – yes
Chris W. – will you be including hotline numbers?
Wesley B. – yes
AJ R. – will there be links to websites?
Wesley B. – there will be links to zoom
Laurie R. – is this North America only?
Wesley B. – this is worldwide
Judson W. – what is the schedule on this being rolled out to the fellowship?
Wesley B. – we are working on something for upload to the app store, softly i’d say for next year
Claudia W. – will there be different language speaking meetings on this app?
Wesley B. – yes
Jacqueline R. – will the map also have access to walking or public transportation, etc
Wesley B. – yes, it will be a link to another map format that you’ll be able to utilize and input your directional preference.
- – The area chair will be the one take care of the website, does it have to be an area chair? Wesley B. – no
Johan T. – no area has to join the map. Your area will be responsible to include locations etc. we are also looking to approve the budget for this app
Wesley B. – this is my IT committee
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Russell S. – thank you IT. Has someone lost a black purse? It will be up here if needed. Next up is the conference committee.
Justine K. – reads the introduction as written in the report. A special thank you to the committee for their hard work putting on this conference. There’s a lot of work that goes into this. New committees, new dias, new city, etc… Everything is new except for our two lovely secretaries up front. I want to thank you all for your patience this year. We are ready to go for the next one.
Misty C. – MOTION 58: To approve our revised committee guidelines (see Attachment 1) seconded
Russell S. – would you like to speak to motion? not at this time, any debate?
Renzo P. – the minor changes are a lot – the strike through about the smoking regulations, they have not been replaced. What’s up with that?
Misty C. – the hotel bids we receive now are for non-smoking hotels.
Renzo P. – the hotels in Europe allow smoking.
Misty C. – this is for conference only, not convention.
Renzo P. – we will host a conference in Europe.
Misty C. – we will revise the guidelines if needed.
Jason L. – I speak against this motion. I’ve reviewed the document and so has the world service board of trustees. We have met with your committee chair. There is a lot of work put into this, and we don’t want to stand in the way of that. But there are a few concerns. Maybe we can divide some of these sections. I would like to modify the document.
Russell S. – you cannot speak in debate and then have questions, please utilize the parliamentarian if you need to or step back into line and think about what you need to speak about.
Jason L. – I will speak about my concerns and ask questions, you have struck out items on page 4 and page 6. The world service board of trustees do not have the authority to review the mailing, it is not one of our members. We do not delegate. Any changes to literature is part of the guidelines. The psa’s etc, this is part of our job. This has not been considered by us.
Misty C. – may i respond?
Russell S. – no you may not. You may put your hand up for debate
Johan T. – I speak against the motion. You put in a lot of work. The points Jason made are key to us and you have changed the composition of the mailing review committee. I believe the entity of the power lines should continue to be reflected. You also struck “this task is not to interfere with the wso procedures etc.” and this has been removed all together.
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Ruby C. – question – point 13 being removed – any revisions to budget must be approved…. Why did you
remove this
Misty C. – these points were redundant and were already in the wsm which supersedes our guidelines
Misty C.- i speak in favor of this motion. Point 7 is from pg 74. The point being struck is already defined by the charter. Point 13 is in the wsm. Johan’s point says… “” what we did was but in bullet points.
Russell S. – point of order to the mic
Jason L. – point of order – the points being read are out of order
Russell S. – this is not out of order
Misty C. – we entered the bullet points. Our mailing review committee, we just review what we are given by the fellowship. The wso then reviews and passes on to the world service board of trustees . The process is clear and we tried to clarify this.
Barry H. – I speak against the motion. I’d like to make a friendly amendment leave in line item 7, 13 and strike bullet point on page 6.
Russell S. – thank you for the accommodation, we’ve brought up the document and Barry will read his points on the friendly amendment. Maria will type in the
Barry H. – Page 4 — item 7- these conference guidelines recognize the……. Page 4, — item 13
Misty C. – not accepting the friendly amendment
Russell S. – At this time, it is my job to take this to the floor and I spoke with the chair and we cannot take this entire motion as it is written. How do you want to do this? Page by page or paragraph by paragraph.
Jason L. – What happens when there is a suggestion to change the writing and it is rejected?
Russell S. – thank you for your patience. I spoke with the trustee and the chair of this committee. There are 2 areas of contention. The chair wants to divide this motion?
Misty C. – Motion 59: to Divide the page 1-3, 4-7 and 8-18.
Russell S. – is there any objection?
Jason L. – can we just bring an amendment?
Russell S. – no, I am asking for unanimous consent to divide into 3 pieces. Are there objections? Yes there are so we will continue to debate the merits of the divide
Russell S. – we will take this to vote – it is not debatable according to our parliamentarian.
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Justine K. – point of order – can I see the motion?
Jason L. – how can you divide when can you divide when the divide overlaps
Tammy L. – point of order – originally the motion was different
Russell S. – yes we made a change. Please prepare to vote on motion 59 Motion 59 passes
Russell S. – Please proceed with your motions.
Misty C. – Motion 60: to approve pages 1-3 of the conference committee guidelines
Seconded
Jason L. – point of information – page 2 is contents.
Russell S. – yes, that’s fine.
Joanne P. – question – we have had this conversation with public information that we did not have to bring internal guidelines to this floor, why are we doing this with the conference committee?
Russell S. – there is too much interaction with other committees, world service office board, world service board of trustees, etc, on these guidelines
Prepare to vote
for / against
Motion 60 passes with substantial unanimity
Misty C. Motion 61: to approve pages 4-7
Seconded
Misty C. – point 7 is in contention and point 13 is in the wsm and we would like it to be more inclusive of the new delegates coming in. On page 13 all we have added is a member of the dais. The last point is the point of the world service board of trustee’s rep that serves on this subcommittee only. The mailing goes to the wso and to the world service board of trustees. You still get it. Nothing changes
Jason L. – item 7 is not in the wsm. Where is it?
Misty C. – page 78 point 8
Jason L. – it is not there. The same language is not used. These things were not put in there by accident. We are to be reminded of what the guidelines are. We don’t need to remember all the other documents. This is not an effort to burn trees. On page 5 it says the review committee is to review mailings. The next 2 sentences say they are not to interfere with…
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They are in there for a reason; to prevent confusion. Under tasks, point 4, – reads item – this is very misleading. It states previously, this should not interfere. You’ve said earlier that the world service board of trustees should not be revie. these materials. This is a problem. We have delegated authority to 1 trustee? This is not the case. Point 4 entasks that the whole authority to 1 trustee member but you did not review with us.
Susan B. – point of order – why are we debating on this floor if you’ve already reviewed these items with the chair and trustees?
Jason L. – we asked for this to be removed but the chair did not agree. You are relying on the office, but they are working through their procedures atm. We have new directors. This language can be wrongly interpreted. This needs to be removed. Ty
Chris M. – I’d like to make a friendly amendment to add the current procedure of the mailing to go from wso to world service board of trustees.
Russell S. – can you please bring up page 6 for the conference to view. Are these the points you want added on?
Chris M. – yes, goes to wso first and then the world service board of trustees for final review.
Misty C. – we cannot tell the wso what to do, we can only give our guidelines.
Russell S. – when we have an authority to review, that authority then begins to skew.
Aurora L. – I do believe you’re speaking out of order.
Russell S. – I will refrain from talking
Aurora L. – I would like you to refrain from talking
Russell S. – the story of my life
Misty C. – we need to confirm with the committee to make sure everything is good.
- BREAK *** PLEASE BE BACK AT 11:15AM Return to session at 11:21am
Russell S. – ok let’s get back…
Claudia W. – Parliamentary inquiry – has the original motion under debate been sent to the finance committee and world service office board, etc? The suggested guideline changes appear to change something in the structure. If they didn’t change something there wouldn’t be such a back and forth between the world service board of trustees. Was finance alerted?
Misty C. – this did go out in SR14
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Russell S. – this was mailed out under SR14
Claudia W. – was this sent to other committees before the changes were made. SR13 is there to serve the fellowship and I’m having difficulty follow. as there is a shift. I can’t vote on this because I have no idea what I’m voting on. Has the authority been received?
Russell S. – I believe the requirements of SR13 have been met.
Claudia W. – I need to know if there is a change in the structure? Trustees are walking up to the mic speaking in the same direction that this is a structural change. The way it’s presented doesn’t help me understand it.
Russell S. – I appreciate the question, I’m here to advise, I don’t believe SR13 was compromised.
Russell S. – if you’re putting your hands up for debate, I will notice you,
Misty C. – parliamentary inquiry – how do I make a motion to amend the motion to divide.
Russell S. – I want to deal with the language that we started.
Misty C. – we would like to make a motion to include point 7 and 13 from page 4
Russell S. – When we left this floor with changes to make to the document, there were no objections and you said you needed time to speak. Please amend that and then we will try to move forward with unanimous consent for that to be added.
Russell S. – did the committee agree to add that verbiage
Misty C. – yes we changed the verbiage
Russell S. – I need to see the changes in writing
Misty C. – Motion 61: to include: add point 7 and add point 13, remove the language point. “The world service board of trustees delegates the authority for review of these materials to the world service board of trustees” and add to tasks. “The conference committee will forward mailings materials 1 week before the deadline to the WSO for them to complete their process”:
Aurora L. – point of order – was the friendly amendment not accepted? I am seeing new verbiage on this motion
Russell S. – when we vote, a gentleman added some verbiage, from what I’m reading now, you are changing the verbiage of that point?
Misty C. – yes
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Russell S. – we can’t just ignore that the friendly amendment hasn’t been recognized. There’s a motion to approve new verbiage or to keep the friendly amendment and I can seek unanimous consent.
Misty C. – We will take the friendly amendment verbiage and seek unanimous consent
Russell S. – if you heard the intent of the verbiage of the friendly amendment, can you please clarify this new verbiage and clarify it.
Misty C. – reads motion
Chris M. – accepts the amendment
Russell S. – i would like to see unanimous consent on the floor
Jason L. – I’m confused, this wasn’t part of the original, did you say you were taking out point 4 and adding verbiage to the tasks?
Misty C. – yes
Russell S. – do i have unanimous consent from the floor for this amendment to be accepted, yes
Patrice F. – on pg 4, #14 all the language for the theme of the conference has been stricken. Does this mean there is no longer a theme or is another committee to do it?
Misty C. – another committee may take this on if they so choose.
Johan T. – I pass
Jay F. – passes
Aurora L. – in favor of motion, believe in the process
Barry H. – in favor for points stated already
Claudia W. – I speak against the motion because i don’t understand the motion and I think many of us don’t.
Justine K. – I pass
Joni E. – I pass
Barbara L. – against the motion, completely confused i suggest the committee work it out and bring it back.
AJ R. – I pass
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Jami D. – against the motion, would like to read concept 2 — reads the concept. I see that the lines are being made by the trustees and not the fellowship
Laurie R. – I speak in favor of the motion, just to clarify the friendly amendment was accepted, it is clarified. The point of convention has been removed. I think this satisfies everyone.
Jonathan H. – can we have the friendly amendment read back to the record.
Russell S. – what they were asking for was to remove certain language and add to task more language – reads motion-. I don’t want to slow this down any further. Can the committee secretaries type this into strike and bold format? This is a requirement of standing rule 10. Is this acceptable? All parties want to move this forward. To alleviate concern, to see a document with strike and bold. We require this and this is what I am asking for.
Russell S. – it is approaching lunchtime and we H.’t voted on it yet. I’ve heard a lot of people speaking for / against, would the document with strike and bold help people? Yes it would. If we’re going to have the same situation in 8-18, we would like to move forward. I would like to see 8-18 in the strike and bold process and do as it is required.
Russell S. – so Jason, you are next
Jason L. – I thought you wanted to see the strike and bold document first for clarity. I think you are right that the floor needs to see the strike and bold document
Russell S. – the motion on pages 4-7 is still out there we’ll put that together during lunch break. Can we consider 8-18 – is there any feedback on this?
Jason L. – Motion 62: call the question on 8-18
seconded
Patrice F. – parliamentary inquiry – they haven’t made the motion yet.
Russell S. – there is a motion on the floor for 8-18
Patrice F. – we haven’t had the change to debate 8-18. Parliamentary inquiry should we be calling the question before the option to begin debate?
Russell S. – Jason, you out of order to call the question. Open debate for 8-18
Simone M. – question is the conference why is the chair and coordinator being striked out
Misty C. – we striked out because we don’t rotate off in the same year
David L. – I speak in favor of the motion however on pg 15, seconded paragraph structure is spelled wrong
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Claudia W. – question – can you please explain why so many strike out for the coordinator and i feel that role is very vital to the fellowship?
Misty C. – this position took our SR14 process hostage and changed it within and we found some problems with the way it was being done and changed it to the way its being done and we have removed the non-voting status so that we can have a delegate in that position
Claudia W. – sounds like you want to make sure that that position doesn’t become too autonomous?
Sarah T. – I speak against the motion, from 8-18 under chairperson it says to assist the standing committee from the reports. I withdraw my comment.
Jami D. – Call for the orders of the day
Russell S. – Orders of the day — is that because it is lunchtime?
Jason L. – I speak in favor of the motion, there have been some vital changes made. This is about the formation of the committee. I like that they’re trying to streamline it and bring it back to order.
AJ R. – I pass as my point has been made.
Russell S. – with those comments on board we’re going to take a vote before our lunch break.
Russell S. – please prepare to vote
for / against
Motion 62 passes with substantial unanimity
Russell S. – we’ll take a break and come back with the strike and bold – been told the doc is in the box.
*** LUNCH BREAK – PLEASE BE BACK 1PM ***
Called to order at 1:06pm
Russell S. – I apologize for my earlier outburst. You deserve better from me and my sharp tongue. Please allow me to show you that I can do better. If you have more to say to me and if I have offended you, please come approach me. When I talked about Dr Bob’s excerpt, and the sharp tongue comment, that was for me. Also the owner of this gavel, I cannot be this man but i will strive to be like him and I do apologize.
There have also been some concerns regarding the agenda and lunch break times. I was not honest and did not properly amend the agenda. Our lunch break is 12-1 and not until 1:30 as the agenda stated. I apologize for not amending it or updating it.
Simone M. – recites the 7th step prayer
Russell S. – we will not go back to the purpose of the minutes. It is now 1:11pm and we’re still in the conference committee reports, did you strike and bold the document?
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Misty C. – yes sir
Misty C. – The change will be in the yellow — we removed the striked language and yelled it.
Russell S. is everyone okay with this. Do we require any further debate or any other questions.
Misty C. – we are removing text and inserting new language. Misty reads the verbiage as written and shown on screen.
Russell S. – anymore concerns or further debate? Seeing none.
Misty C. -Motion 61: to approve pgs 4-7
Russell S. – Prepare to vote
for / against
Motion 61 passes with substantial unanimity
Russell S. – is that all?
Misty C. – 5th concept – we spent several hours explaining why the trustees are important, which are already in wsm.
Susan B. – 5th concept – this was painful. I would like to see committees that cannot come to agreement and have received feedback, please make an effort to find some cohesion with that. This is not fair to new delegates nor our time. What principle and concept are we trying to achieve?
Patrice F. – 5th concept – it seems that a theme for the conference is only something I care about. We should still have a theme.
Russell S. – moving forward, thank you
Justine K. – we will now present our final motion
Carly C. – Motion 63: To revise the Petition to Become an Area form to include questions around language and translations as well as to reflect the form is for Area recognition, not approval. (See Attachment 2)
Russell S. – did this go out in SR14?
Carly C. – Yes
Claudia W. – I speak in favor – you may wish to use the language “primary language” as some countries have several languages
Henry A. – we are just adding the beginning text? Is that right?
Carly C. – we are adding primary languages and the word approval for recognition.
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Russell S. – I presume this is in the box? Can you put the form on the screen? — posted to screen
Jason L. – question – you mention there is one thing about common language, I can’t see about that translation.
Robyn G. – the translation is on page 2, point 14
Russell S. – -reads out point 14.- Any other questions? Seeing none, Prepare to vote
for / against
Motion 63 passes
Justine K. – I would also like to mention that we have received several referrals regarding hybrid conferences and at this time we have decided that this will stay in referral as there is still discussion on this. Thank you to my committee for their hard work and effort. Thank you to you for allow. us to serve you as well, at this conference.
Russell S. – questions
David L. – thank you to the conference committee, new hotel, city, end of pandemic, workshops, rro, orientation, concepts. Etc. thank you so much
Sarah T. – you are a brilliant chair Justine, ty, my question is to hear the voice of the fellowship regarding the referral for hybrid.
Justine K. – we don’t have all the information outlined as of yet. We are also contracted until 2025 so we are looking at 2026 forward so we have time to look at this.
Sarah T. – would you object to the floor to have a discussion and their feelings regarding a hybrid conference?
Justine K. – yes
Barry H. – I am just asking – if I can just share, raise your hands if you are in favor of a hybrid…
Russell S. – no, this cannot happen, perhaps people can stand to share some information. This is not a vote.
Barry H. – I think something should be sent out to the fellowship as a whole and lets see what the fellowship wants.
AJ R. – I am in favor of a hybrid as there are areas outside of the US that cannot make it to conference. I feel if you are able to afford to pay registration and have a vote, this is a great option. This is a struggle for other areas within the world to come to conference.
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Wesley B. – I am in favour of hybrid but there are technicalities in getting it done. We had challenges in LA but I believe we can do this. Hybrid allows the right of participation. We are making all the decisions for the fellowship.
Renzo P. – I do not feel very supportive of this. I travel from Europe. Are there any numbers in the changes in voting members from last year compared to last year?
Russell S. – this is the best year we’ve had
Renzo P. – it could be better as hybrid
Tom T. – I would like to place a rhetorical question, what happens when it’s held in Hong Kong or somewhere else in Europe, what then becomes of the conference?
Susan B. – online is here to stay. Online participation is crucial. I love getting together but its not just about that. I expect the conference to go out of the USA. in order to be inclusive. Hybrid is important.
Russell S. – anyone speaking against it? Please?
Carly C. – I speak against this idea. It was hard being in the UK hub. Most of us were up until 6am because of the time zones differences. I believe that the participation suffered. The hybrid did not have the same feel as in person. The conference needs to move around, not just in North America, move it to Europe at times so that others can attend as well.
Robyn G. – it is in delegate duties to attend conferences. Concept 2 allows trust of this body to represent CA as a whole. This is not a right of participation issue, that is what proxies are for.
Henry A. – I’d like to speak against this if it were a motion. I’d also like to make a motion to limit this debate.
Russell S. – I am now limiting debate.
Leslie R. – I speak against this idea. There is magic on this floor. I have paid my own way to come here and I am still learning but the love and inspiration is awe inspiring. I love what happens here and thank you for inspiring me to go to any lengths.
Russell S.- please make a referral
Justine K. – we will be looking at contracts for 26 and 27 and we will take this into consideration.
Russell S. – any questions?
Patrice F. – if you get a referral to create a theme, would you look at that?
Justine K. – yes we would
Russell S. – Thank you conference committee
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Russell S. – finance committee, you’re up.
Jim G. – the information that is in the box went in early this morning so it may not show up, please refresh your browser and then view them.
Jim G. – read the introduction report as written. You’ll see as you go through the financial reports, how powerful the freedom fund is. We have many things to go through to get the message out to the newcomers. I’d like to go through an exercise. Please go on your phone and go to ca.org, scroll down a bit and look for the hand with the heart over it (member contribution) and you will be taken to a site to set up a one time contribution. Take this back to your area and GSR’s and show them this. These funds go to the services needed at CA. Let’s now look at the report – financial data breakdown — show. the net income and all the numbers. Show. the main income categories now — it’s show. the 7th tradition, convention income and products. You can see that the ff is nearly 50% of the income show.. On the next chart, those product expenses come out of the monies that come in. This is good money for us to do the things we do. Main income categories 2022 chart being shown and read. Explaining what each pie chart section is (reading). Let’s go to the next one which is convention expenses. Jim reads off the pie chart. Questions can be asked at the end of the report. We will now go to appendix 2 and the report/chart is being shown on screen. Explanations of the numbers on the chart are being told. The next page is being shown and they are reading off of the page. It’s important to see the balance sheets to show you what funds are available and allocated to. Let’s look at these numbers on the sheet. All of this information can be found in the box. They are showing the budget now
Jim G. – Motion 64: To approve the 2022 Revised Budget (Appendix 6)
seconded
Russell S. – discussion debate?
for / against
Motion 64 passes unanimously
Jim G. – Motion 65: To approve the Proposed budget for 2023 (Appendix 7)
These are some changes that came to us during the conference. The trustees have helped us with this.
We are hopeful that all works out with the numbers we have provided.
Russell S. – discussion/ debate?
for / against
Motion 65 passes unanimously
Henry A. – point of personal privilege – too many people on the wifi and I can’t even get on.
Russell S. – please only connect 1 device. Log your extra device off. Jim continue
Jim G. – Motion 66: To begin bidding, pricing, and production of a new fund-raising item to WSO for an “Iron-on” Birthday Chip.
seconded
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This began in the finance committee a few years ago and this chip can be purchased for someone in your area to celebrate a birthday with. This can be costly. We then went into the concept of doing an iron on for the various years from newcomers (3 months) up to 40 years. And then it would be in increments of 5 years.
Jami D. – parliamentary inquiry – can we call it something other than a “chip”.
Joe B. – when we view the picture. We’re free looks a bit wonky and the trademark is off
Jami D. – friendly amendment can this be called an iron on birthday patch.
Russell S. – please make sure this is done
Jami D. – new motion 66: Motion 66: To begin bidding, pricing, and production of a new fund-raising item to WSO for an “Iron-on” Birthday Patch.
Jim G. – friendly amendment accepted
Susan B. – question – friendly amendment – would you consider having it say I’m here and I’m free instead of a we’re here and we’re free because it’s a birthday patch.
Russell S. – please let’s show other people who come up to debate some respect.
Jim G.. – no we do not accept that
David L. – Friendly amendment – call these Milestone Patches
Jim G.. – yes we accept
New Motion 66: To begin bidding, pricing, and production of a new fund-raising item to WSO for an “Iron-on” Milestone Patch.
Russell S. – sorry for the pause, the finance chair and the chair of the world service office board – finance will get approval from the world service office board. This is just a concept for fundraising so far. Could we move this motion forward as an Iron On Patch?
New Motion 66: To begin bidding, pricing, and production of a new fund-raising item to WSO for an “Iron-on” Patch.
Catherine E. – is this the wrong committee? I understand it now, so never mind.
Miriam F. – i love this concept for fundraising and not as a replacement to the chip. We recently did iron on patches and they are a great way for the wso to create fundraising.
John S. – question – what size would the patch be?
Jim G. – 8 inch diameter, could be larger or smaller
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Brad Silver – this motion won’t come to the floor again if I am reading the motion correctly.
Russell S. – wso can explain
Earl H. – once a concept is approved, and brought to the office. Size and quantity, etc will be discussed, as well as vendors. We are charged with production
Russell S. – anything further? Prepare to vote please
for / against
Motion 66 passes with substantial unanimity
Susan B. – 5th concept – as the OSA, we have an online store regarding fundraising. We are not to put ourselves in competition with the CA online store. You are copying what we are doing. We have this exact logo on shirts, cups, etc.
Ewan C – Motion 67 : To establish an Annual Personal Donation limit of $10,000.
seconded
for / against
Motion 67 passes with substantial unanimity
Ewan C – Motion 68: To establish a “One Time” Bequest Donation limit from an Individual of $50,000
seconded
Jason L. – I’d like to make a friendly amendment – to reduce the amount to $25,000
Ewan C – not accepted
Henry A. – is this because we have a lack of funding.
Ewan C – this is in line with AA
David L. – question – what is a bequest?
Ewan C – this is a donation in the event of death
John B. – great job. We talk about fundraising and then we talk about motions like this, we don’t want to talk about. Do you also support this internationally?
Jim G. – we talked about this generally with trustees going back to 2013. Internationally I am not sure.
Christie S. – I am an enrolled agent with the IRS. you can give away $15,500 without tax implications.
John B. – did you take into consideration these conversations with the world service board of trustees and world service office board in 2013? The concern is large amounts of money coming in. not in relation to a deficit from Covid at all, but why was it limited to 10/20,000?
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Jim G. – the economy at that time was different, perhaps appropriate at this time.
Daniel S. – I speak against this as there should not be a way to make it into someone’s Will. just my opinion, i don’t think we should Double this now. This is not the spirit we want to take
Jason L. – I speak against the motion as it stands. The world service board of trustees did an investigation as we were scared of running out of funds. It was 5,000 and increased that to 10,000. 50,000 for a bequest does not align with 7th tradition and members shouldn’t have undue responsibility over what we do. The idea that someone can say, I will give you 50,000 when I die, that has implications. These are big numbers and outside of what we need. We said 10 and 20, I suggested 25, but that’s my opinion.
Yves W. – friendly amendment – to change the word to CA member.
Russell S. – There is objection
New Motion 68: To establish a “One Time” Bequest Donation limit from a CA Member of $50,000
Daniel S. – why does a member have to be a member who used coke? We don’t know when the money is going to be there until it’s there. If my mother wants that right, she should have the right to donate.
Tom T. – I speak against this motion as I don’t believe the deceased represents a member
Jacob M. – How many donations/bequests have been sent back
Jim G. – none that I am aware of.
Jason L. – we have received correspondence in several instances for people who are not CA members and we respond that we cannot accept donations from non-members. They are received. It has happened. Maybe 5x as a trustee.
Jonathan H. – point of information – so the answer is no?
Russell S. – when i was trustee we received a donation of $5,000
Johnathan H. – I understand we are not in this position of receiving huge donations, etc. The finance committee should allow this to happen. This is a good thing. The person has been deceased and cannot have undue influence. Let’s take their money if they are willing to give it to us. The ability to use those funds, I am in favor.
Michael C. – friendly amendment – $250,000
Jim G. – this is a one time bequest of 50,000.
Michael C. – the issue is
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Johnathan H. – parliamentary inquiry – people can only pass away one time and can only give the $50,000 once.
Wesley B. – I speak in favor – Jonathan covered my point. Talking about money is tacky and death is awkward. I think it’s fine. People should be alL.d the opportunity to donate if they wish
John R. – I speak against this motion. People are not going to start giving us all their money, but we need to take responsibility for ourselves
Barbara L. – was a friendly amendment made for 25,000 and was it accepted?
Jim G. – yes, and it was not accepted.
Barbara L. – how did we come up with such a large amount of money?
Carly C. – Motion 69: call the question
seconded
Passed with substantial unanimity
Motion 68: reread
for / against
Motion passes
Ernest M. – 5th concept – I respect that we need money, but this is not the way. Money has an influence. I want to reconsider. This is where money and spirituality meet. I did not hear that today. I heard no reason for this change.
Stephen C. – motion 70: to reconsider motion 68.
seconded
Stephen C. – Ernest, your concept 5 moved me. We forget about the spirituality of this program. Let’s go back to basics. When I consider my HP, we need to talk about it. Money is contentious and that is why I make this motion.
Jim G. – I agree with the sentiment, but to clarify, we are not promoting donations upon death, we are just opening that limit up…
Russell S. – we cannot debate the main motion
Jim G. – i speak against the motion to reconsider
Henry A. – I speak in favor of the motion to reconsider. It was too close. I am torn. I think this is real close
Jason L. – I speak in favor of the motion to reconsider, when Ernest spoke, there were other things we did not consider. This could be turned over. We need to hear more opinions on this.
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Frankie A. – I speak in favor of the motion. I believe in the 5th from earnest. From the 12×12 regarding the death of a member – reads excerpt- AA must always stay poor… bare minimum… 10,000 was set at that time… all future gifts should be denied…. Profound reaction… aa presented a strong point…
financial independence …. So in other words we need to remember the 5th tradition and 6th tradition.
Susan B. – I speak against reconsideration. This provides the opportunity for this to happen. When that was written, $10,000 was from years ago.
Rick K. – I speak in favor of reconsidering – anything that brings this much contention is an issue for me. We should not be so rigid in dictating a number anyway. We take suggestions and requests. We should have accepted the friendly amendment of 25,000
Leslie R. – money can also do wonderful things too. Not just negative.
Claudia W. – I speak in favor of reconsidering – several points now considered regarding spirituality were raised.
Robyn G. – I speak against, the group conscious was determined
Seth N. – Motion 71: to Call the question
Russell S. – Motion to reconsider previous motion 69:
Motion fails at 76 for and 78 against
- Let’s take a break. It is 3:10, we will return at 3:30*** Call to order
Russell S. – do we have any announcements:
Vicki R – I have 2 things – 1. If you have not registered for a late checkout please do so. 2. the wifi situation – one device per person please
Sheree H. – would like a recount on the motion to reconsider.
Russell S. – please even if your conscience has changed, I need you to vote the way you originally voted. If you didn’t vote at all please don’t raise your hand. Please vote with what you are credentialed with and with what you gave at roll call this morning. We are voting on the motion to reconsider the bequest donation.
Prepare to vote
for / against
76 for 76 against – this motion is a tie
Motion fails
Russell S. – as a chair I have the deciding vote and I also have the ability to call and utilize the tie.
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Tom T. – 5th concept – I believe this decision was wrong, we will die, but how we die is determined by circumstances. This decision enables a member on how to provide their funds
Claudia W. – 5th concept – none of us would be here if it weren’t for 3 men who decided to raise funds and at the end of the conversation they said “wouldn’t money ruin our fellowship.”
Misty C. – parliamentary inquiry – we heard a lot about the 12 traditions, concept 7 talks about the ability of overturning – reads concept 7 as it is written.
Russell S. – I would continue and if the trustees feel that they accept this or not – this is the conference in action – I would suggest we proceed with what we’re doing. The trustee’s can step up to the mic and work on this.
Stephen C. – 5th concept – would like to read the 12th concepts (reads the 12th concepts as written) something as decisive as this should not be decided without substantial unanimity – I think we should really take another look at this.
T. F. – point of information – when the motion was made to call the question earlier, was that recognized by the chair – since it was, that vote was out of order since that member that called the question doesn’t have a vote on this floor. In consideration, I will withdraw my request.
Jim G. – Motion 72: Motion to amend previously passed motion (motion 68) to read: To establish a “One Time” Bequest Donation limit from an CA Member of $25,000
seconded
Russell S. – was this correct?
Jim G. – that is correct
Russell S. – there is now a motion on the floor to read: reads motion. It’s been seconded.
Jim G. – much of the intent of this motion at the conference is that we need to have some type of limit established and that’s why we are willing to negotiate.
Henry A. – I speak for the motion corporate property is a little different than ours. It’s going to make everyone feel a lot better, we get 7th tradition from the freedom fund as well.
Earl H. – in favor of this motion, this is a reasonable amount, it doesn’t exceed other amounts that we get throughout the year.
Michael C. – I speak in favor of this motion, we shouldn’t become so ‘wealthy’ because that will bring issues.
Russell S. – please speak to the motion to amend.
Stephen C. – in favor because this is the compromise we were looking for. The amount is much better and we’ll be more unified.
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Aurora L. – in favor of the motion, in our huddle it was important to have more unanimity and I think we can do that with this amount
AJ R. – Motion 73: call the question
seconded
Russell S. – anyone in objection? Seeing no objection, please prepare to vote.
for / against
Motion 73 passes with substantial unanimity
Jason L. – can we not now debate the motion?
Russell S. – there was a call of the question. No you cannot. Is there an issue
Jason L. – I am confused.
Russell S. – yes you are.
for / against
Motion 72 passes with substantial unanimity
Russell S. – this has been a powerful debate. How are we feeling? Are there any 5th concept statements?
Susan B. – 5th concept – this does not promote unity. The conference made a decision. I would like to suggest this be referred back to the committee to review tax ramifications and bring it back next year.
Russell S. – any further concepts or reconsider anything.
Tammy L. – parliamentary inquiry – i’m confused because the motion passed and a referral was made. Can you send it back after the motion passes?
Russell S. – no
Jim G. – we have a lot of work ahead of us, 2 referrals will stay with us this year to be worked on. Thank you to all the committee. We meet regularly.
Russell S. – any questions for finance?
Jason L. – I remember a while back there was a gratitude donation based on the number of years someone was sober, did that get sent to another committee? Was it on the website, it was a good idea at the time
Jim G. – please submit a new referral
Miriam F. – have you looked at the financial guidelines and updated them for the 20th century?
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Jim G. – we have been revieing them for the past 4 years so they are updated and we have housekeeping work to do with them, if you have a specific suggestion please submit a referral
Daniel S. – noticed in the charts, is there any idea of the funds that were lost earlier this year? Jim G. – this should be directed to the wso
Stephen C. – looking at the pie chart – I can’t read that pie chart without a lot of help as I am colorblind. Can we consider providing this information in some other way than a coloured pie chart?
Susan B. – are there any plans to seek restitution from those who took money from the wso? Russell S. – that’s not within the scope of the finance scope.
Susan B. – it is in the scope of the trustees so I’d like them to respond.
Russell S. – I’m not ignoring you or denying you but this can’t be answered right now.
Brenda L. – a huge part of your budget was for program services expenses. What was that for?
Jonathan H. – program services, if you pull up the profit/loss statement, it goes over the expenses of office stuff, etc….
Judson W. – point of order haven’t we already approved all this?
Tom T. – please describe the process for validating donations from members or non members. How do you know who the money is coming from?
Jim G. – we only set a limit today, not the process yet. We will set a standard operating process
Tom T. – will you take a referral to such a process
Jim G. – of course
David L. – did all the committee’s budget get what they submitted for?
Jim G. – some were changed, they provided money back to the budget for bigger items.
Edward M. – my question is in relation to translation – there was a large increase, can you explain what that additional money was for (translations services)
Jim G. – not sure if i can answer where that money will be spent but we had to hire professional services to provide translation.
Jonathan H. – for proofreading translations on a professional level
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Russell S. – seeing no other further question, please thank finance.
Russell S. – concluding with finance – we have heard from all of the committees on conference but we are far from over. We have some pending items though. I would like to call a very brief break
Return at 4:35pm
Russell S. – call to order at 4:40
Russell S. – You have been fantastic with your reports, we H.’t had to cut anything and H.’t run out of time. We’re going to start utilizing new business in a new way, it may be a bit bumpy in its first year. I would like to give our thanks to the standing committee chairs — thank you. We were given notice of a motion, we will deal with that now, we will finish up this motion and then head into new business upon returning from dinner time. If you have new business, please write it down and bring it up to the dais, and if you don’t do this you can still utilize the new business portion we just want to facilitate this timely. We were given notice of a motion
Wesley B. – Motion 73: motion to rescind previously passed motion 36
seconded
Motion 36: to make the follow. changes to p. 33 of the WSM, delegates:
Delegates and Alternate Delegates are to be elected to the WSC by each Area. Each Area shall have three (3) two (2) votes which may be carried by up to three (3) two (2) Area Delegates or Alternate Delegates in person or by proxy, as set forth in the Standing Rules for the Cocaine Anonymous World Service Conference. If an Area has more than 75 25 meetings per week of its groups (excluding H&I), then that Area will be entitled to one additional vote; and one additional vote for every additional fifty (50) meetings per week of its groups (or portion Thereof). This would take effect after conference 2026 for all existing areas, and after conference 2022 for new areas recognized at WSC. If an Area has any question concerning the number of votes to which it is entitled, that Area should contact its Regional Trustee or the WSO.
Wesley B. – after seeing how close the vote was, I believe we should have a fresh start to revisit this.
Russell S. – debate?
Claudia W. – I speak against this motion, I’m impressed with what we just went through with unity. I would like to point out that the statement was close. There was a minority voice that has been dismissed, from the delegates themselves. We can’t afford to send 2 delegates. I ran some #’s and is a count of how many (37) areas that have 3 votes. There are more from the British Isles I did not account for. It’s more like 42 total votes missing. They probably would’ve voted in favor of the motion because they don’t have the opportunity to fly here. This gives us a whole different light. If they had voted here, it wouldn’t have been as close as it was. We need to think about the minority vote.
Tom T. – I speak against the motion to rescind. I base my resistance on this as I believe this is the best for CA as a whole.
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Miriam F. – in favor of this motion to rescind. I understand the intention behind this to help the smaller areas, I believe the #25 is too high to be only affecting the target audience. My own area is right on that cusp. If in 4 years, this vote gets removed from the area, people like me will not be at the conference. If our area only had 2 votes, I wouldn’t be here. I’m an alternate delegate.
Claudia W. – point of order – out of order, the underlying motion is being spoken to.
Russell S. – that is correct, Miriam, you are debating not speaking against the motion to rescind.
Miriam F. – I believe it should be rescinded because of the points I made.
Claudia W. – point of information – delegates or alternate delegates be able to attend conferences with no vote.
Barry H. – I am in favor of the motion to rescind. The fellowship exercised their voice here today. There was a concept read. When I went and reread what was passed yesterday, an area will only have 2 delegates. They can carry up to a maximum of 2 votes each. Reducing the delegates from 3 to 2 and the numbers were calculated based on the number of meetings there are. The delegates can still carry numbers here at the conference. It talks about substantial unanimity and what passed yesterday was not substantial unanimity. everything else we deal with here, we should always strive for substantial unanimity. We had to recount votes multiple times throughout the vote.
Henry A. – I speak against the motion to rescind, as it’s the same as speaking for it as it stands. I represent an area that will lose a vote, but we’re supposed to come here and think for ourselves and for CA as a whole. It did pass yesterday. It’s not fair to the small areas, it’s still representing areas. Let’s just make the process a little bit fairer.
Daniel S. – money is constantly being spoken about, yesterday i didn’t want to waste time but the fact of the matter, the numbers don’t match up. I’m in favor of putting it back up for a vote. I’d like to redo the vote.
Jason N. – I speak against the motion to rescind, thank you for bringing this back though Wesley B. because we should be discussing this again. Concept 4 (reads the concept as written) i think this concept speaks to the motion. Someone speaks of the trustee’s having the power of veto, I would hate that this is something that divides the fellowship as a whole. We felt this was best.
AJ R. – in favor of rescinding this. An additional vote is a voice. I think it’s necessary for every area, district to have the right of participation. You can still have an opinion.
Jason L. – point of order – I’m hearing people debating the motion.
Russell S. – we’re debating the motion to rescind. The underlying motion can be considered.
Henry A. – I believe that rescinding the motion would be best for our fellowship and having a substantial vote be better for the fellowship.
Jason N. – Parliamentary inquiry – can you please explain if this motion passes.
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Russell S. – the previous passed motion won’t exist, it kills the motion. It’s to take it back and then structure and bylaws can , if they wish, decide to take it back to their committee and work on it again.
Rick K. – in favor of rescinding the past motion. There are other delegates not here to represent. I can’t say how they’d feel but they’re not here to state this. If a small area loses a vote, they can send an alternate delegate to come to the conference. Just like I’m coming here to speak on this motion, everyone should be coming to speak.
Henry A. – Parliamentary inquiry – can we hear the underlying motion again.
Russell S. – Please bring back the underlying motion to the screen. Yesterday’s motions are in the box in dalies
Jacob M. – I think I have evidence of knowledge. After the 5th concept was made I learned how to change my vote. As it was discussed I speak in favor of this motion because my view has changed and it was a very close vote.
Jonathan H. – I pass
Robyn G. – against the motion to rescind, Robert’s Rules of Order reads, -reads from RRO- this motion has been up in 2021, 2022 and the delegates are given the task of reading this before the conference. Delegates had the opportunity to vote on what they read when it was sent out in the SR14.
Sheree H. – I speak in favor of rescinding, thank you for the votes not on the floor, we have these maps and diagrams for all these regions, one reason could be to have control of the floor, everyone should have a right of their own. I’m a member who wants to participate and everyone should have that right. No one knows why those 42 didn’t come here, everyone should have a fair chance.
Daniel G. – I pass
Vladimir T. – I’m nervous but this motion has been on the floor for 5 years. This fellowship cannot decide on this motion for 5 years, why is it still here? Just because the other voting members aren’t here doesn’t mean
Jim G. – I speak in favour of the motion to rescind, in looking at the original motion, and after hearing the 5th concept, we started with 2 votes and we can still have a desciention with the tie breaker.
Ernest M. – we are driven by fear, we want CA to grow and if it’s not grow. here, it’s grow. in Europe. Change is hard. My area will be affected, we have 21 meetings and it shouldn’t be about the area, it should be about the fellowship. We’re grow. but my area is losing a vote, but nobody is losing anything. This should be about “we” and if you want it to grow, we’re going to change and grow.
Carl R. – I speak in favor of rescinding because I’m confused. As it’s written only the area will get 2 delegates. If they don’t send 2 delegates and 5 votes, each can only carry 2 votes, what happens to that last vote. We need more clarification
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Jason L. – I speak against the motion to rescind, it seemed very reasonable to me as it proves the democracy of our fellowship. You gain as the numbers grow. Why should a small area with a few members get so many votes, and not more members with more votes. This will affect very few areas in my opinion.
Justine K. – motion 74: to call the question
seconded
for / against
motion passes with substantial unanimity
Edward M. – parliamentary inquiry – what about substantial unanimity ? Does this need to pass with a simple majority?
Russell S. – just by a simple majority
Tom T. – if this motion passes, what is the solution?
Robby S. – if the motion to rescind passes, can the motion come back in new business?
Russell S. – we are looking into this. If someone wants to bring this back, please trust us and we will try, but I do not believe this can happen today. There are motions one can make to suspend the rules, you know this. We will look into this.
Russell S. – Prepare to vote on motion 73
for / against
Motion 73 fails. 83 votes for and 84 votes against.
Russell S. – I’m sorry but I’m not sure what to do. I’m not a gambling man. Barry can you please come up here and speak to vicki about 2023.
Susan B. – 5th concept – in the interest of fairness to use your conscience in one tie and to use a coin toss for another does not sit well with me.
*** DINNER BREAK *** PLEASE BE BACK AT 7PM
Russell S. – we are not in session but we have an announcement from the 2023 convention.
Barry H. – we will pull the winners of the Convention packages. Winners are Marty Wilson and Yves W..
Fred J. – I am the fundraising chair of the convention. We still have shirts available.
Amanda I. – I will buy 4 shirts for the top 4 people who ask me.
Robert B. – I will match that
Johnathan H. – me too
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Russell S. – we are back. It is 7:10 pm
Andy P. – recites the serenity prayer
Russell S. – committee and board reports have concluded. I have asked for new business. We have some motions available.. Unity…
Jacqueline R. – Motion 75: to approve the 2023 CATW corrected artwork seconded
Russell S. – is this in the box, so you can all see it. The concern was the logo, did Joe help you out, I’m glad to hear that he did.
Russell S. – debate?
for / against
Passes with substantial unanimity
Greg B. – Motion 78: The WORLD SERVICE OFFICE BOARD arranges quotes/costs to provide ZOOM
accounts for all Standing Committees and Boards and a conference approved line item of $3,500 is made
available in the 2022 & 2023 budgets that will allow the WORLD SERVICE OFFICE BOARD to action and
arrange these new ZOOM accounts.
seconded
Russell S. – motion is seconded. Would you like to speak to your motion?
Gregor B. – not at this time
Susan B. – I speak in favor of this motion. Zoom has a platform to be able to translate into languages that are not English. The US does not only care about ourselves, so I support this motion
Henry A. – pass
Jonathan H. – I speak against this motion – there are 2 committees that requested accounts. The total cost is $1,100 annually – at most. The current option in the motion is 3x more than is in the budget
Tammy L. – i speak in favor – my point has been made
Earl H. – I agree with my treasurer, I would like more time to study the issue and do cost comparisons rather than a blanket “here it is”. This is a business decision that needs more consideration
Rick K.. – question – zoom accounts – does this open up the opportunity for members who cannot attend conferences so that they can participate?
Gregor B. – yes. This concept allows 300 people to attend meetings on each account. The pricing was unsure of, but I do not think it would exceed the 3,500. The office needs to check that out.
AJ R. – your motion said it’s for all standing committees and boards, but not for the conference.
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Gregor B. – This is not for the conference.
Gregor B. – pass
Robert B. – I speak in favor of this motion. We chatted about this. This is for the wso to review and investigate Up to $3,500 for the benefit of the fellowship
Wesley B. – we do not have to defer for further research, we have been on zoom for years. We have been using our own accounts and this solves the problem for individuals who have been.
Patrice F. – question – is there a way to find out what other committees have already placed a budget item for zoom?
Gregor B. – I use my own account but I heard of other committees to obtain a budget for their own accounts. We should not have to pay for our own accounts. I don’t know what other committees have asked for rebates.
Johan T. – pass
Jason N. – when it says to provide zoom accounts for all standing committees, we might want to change that to a “media” platform. friendly amendment to change zoom account to video/media platform.
Gregor B. accepted.
New Motion 78: The WORLD SERVICE OFFICE BOARD arranges quotes/costs to provide Video/Media platform accounts for all Standing Committees and Boards and a conference approved line item of $3,500 is made available in the 2022 & 2023 budgets that will allow the WORLD SERVICE OFFICE BOARD to action and arrange these new Video/Media platform accounts.
John B. – this is a great idea and all the motion is asking for is to arrange quotes/costs which means find out how much is a quote/costs. This office is happy to do that. We would want to talk to everyone. We can allocate from other accounts, but all that’s being asked is to ask for a quote/cost.
AJ R. – I speak in favor of this motion because Hospitals and institutions were going to look into that anyway because we are using a personal account.
David L. – I speak in favour.
Robby S. – I speak in favour – the IT committee asked other committees to send them platform options that they use, many platforms offer discounts on several accounts.
Laurie R. – I speak in favour of the motion. We need to do some research. Many committees use accounts already. We should get them for the committees that need them. We can look into this. When committee chairs roll off, the account will already be there.
Taylor F. – question – does the wso pay for the go-to-meeting accounts?
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Jason L. – I speak in favour.
Tom T. – motion 79: call the question
Seconded
Motion passes
Russell S. – reads the motion
Prepare to vote
for / against
Motion passes with substantial unanimity
Russell S. – any other new business??
Susan B. – we need numbers from all over the world to join the virtual services committee. Thank you.
Russell S. – any other new business? Seeing none.. We are moving on to… TEC board and delegates please.
Sarah T. – what a fantastic opportunity this has been on TEC. I just wanted to introduce everyone who took part in this as it was such a spiritual process. Thank you to all the delegates who participated in this process. Delegates if you H.’t done this yet we highly recommend you do as I have done this a few times and it’s a great experience. Sarah T. will have everyone on the TEC stand up and acknowledge themselves as she introduces them.
Election Results:
ANR Trustee – Richard B.
Trustee at Large 1– Gary P.
Sarah T. – we prayed on this and God showed up at the right time. It’s been an honor to work with everyone. Thank you for alloW. me to work as your TEC chair.
Jason L. – the new world service board of trustees chair is sarah T. and the new vice is Clay Plummer.
The secretary is Aurora L. and the assistant is Barry H..
Sarah T. – thank you George M. and Jason L.. And their contribution has been amazing.
Russell S. – questions for TEC? None… please join me in thanking them. Next is the election of conference officers. 2 positions are available for nominations. Secretary positions are open. Both secretaries are open for another term. Nominations for secretary A
Tammy L. – Motion 80: I nominate Albina K.
seconded
Tom T. – Motion 81: I nominate the standing secretary Out of order
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Jason L. – Motion 82: I nominate Maria K.
seconded
Gillian McGee – Motion 83: I nominate Shelby Dickinson.
seconded
Michael C. – Motion 84: I nominate Patrice F.
Ruby C. – Motion 85: I nominate Alice F.
seconded
Simonne M. – Motion 86: – I nominate Jackie L.
seconded
Aurora L. – Motion 87: I Nominate Rebecca A.
seconded
Not accepted
Carly C. – Motion 88: I nominate Amanda T.
seconded
Linda M. – Motion 89: I nominate Kurtina R.
seconded
Claudia W. – Motion 90: I nominate Robby S.
seconded
No
Russell S. – I am going to close nominations. Each nominee can introduce themselves. Please check the job description. -Reads description- plus bring Russell coffee. It might look really cool up here. It is tremendously demanding. This is a hard job. It is not a really cool job – you may not understand how demanding this job is. Does anyone not meet the requirements?
Albina K. – gave resume
Maria K. – gave resume
Shelby R. – gave resume
Patrice F. – gave resume
Alice F. – gave resume
Jackie L. – gave resume
Amanda T. – gave resume
Kurtina R. – gave resume
Russell S. – time is not on our side. This is a unique service position. I will not stop anyone from asking questions. I have asked former secretaries to ask relevant questions. I will also not stop anyone else from asking the questions.
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Susan L. – Can you type by ear?
How do you deal with pressure?
Each candidate responds to the two questions.
Susan L. – Do you all realize that you will be giving up a delegate position? Are you prepared to be on the floor at least an hour before everyone else as well as staying late each day until everything is completed?
Kurtina R. – has respectfully declined.
Jackie R. – Do you have a speed count WPM for typing?
Justine K. – Being part of the Conference Committee, there is an expectation of show. up to and participating in the monthly committee meetings?
Candidates respond to all questions.
Russell S. – any other questions?
T. F. – For the current secretaries, how long have you served so far?
Russell S. – Seeing no further questions, I am asking the nominees to step outside.
Russell S. – rather not get into speaking in favor or opposition of each nominee. Are there any serious objections for any of the nominees? Are there any concerns of any of the candidates and the job duties?
T. F. – in the WSM, it suggests that the secretary positions stagger, that is not the case this time.
Something to keep in mind.
Miriam F. – Did we not just approve a change to the Conference guidelines that Officers only serve 2 terms.
Russell S. – yes
Miriam F. – to clarify, that means Maria has already done the two terms.
Russell S. – Parliamentarian Duane M. is going to explain the voting process.
Duane M. – Because of the number of candidates, we are going to go through the 1st round, if anyone gets 50%, that person will be one of the secretaries. If no one gets 50%, we will take the top two.
Kurtina R. – Parliamentary inquiry – Because we have multiple positions, do we get to vote for more than one person?
Duane M. – Sorry for the confusion. You get to vote one time for one person. We are going to vote again.
Russell S. – we are voting for Secretary A first, count the votes, then go through the same for Secretary B.
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Vote for Secretary A takes place.
Second round of voting for Secretary A takes place.
Voting for Secretary B takes place.
Rick K. – Parliamentary inquiry – do we need to make a motion to extend the session.
Russell S. – Need unanimous consent to continue, any objections. Seeing none, the voting process continues.
Second round of voting for Secretary B takes place.
Congratulations to Albina and Amanda.
Russell S. – does that answer your question about staggering?
Justine K. – the next conference will be Aug 30 to September 3 in Dallas, Texas.
Russell S. – in preparation for a pending motion, can I ask our world service board of trustees chair to stand at the mic please, along with our current Atlantic trustee. We’ve had a difficult few years. We’ve gotten through some bumpy moments. I feel it appropriate for each trustee to make a motion to adjourn and second please.
Jason L. – Motion 91: motion to adjourn
George M. – seconded
Russell S. – This meeting is adjourned. Circle up for the serenity prayer please.
Meeting closes at 9:13pm
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