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Session to open at 9:00 am
Trevor calls to order at 9:06 am
Russell S.: Please speak clearly into the mics in LA. Please use viral raise hand for those online. We will lower your hand when you’ve got you
Joe: please turn the mic if you are shorter or taller and speak clearly.
Russell S.: The voting process is a little slower today. Please be patient and we will let you know when to lower hands etc.
Trevor S.: Thank you Russell. Thank you for everyone virtually and your dedication to C.A. Please give the secretaries a big hand, Minutes are already in the Box. Thank you.
Please come up and read who is a C.A. Member? after we open with the Serenity Prayer.
Prayer
Jackie R. reads Who is a C.A. Member?
Trevor S.: Rules for Rollcall – full name, position and number of votes. Let’s start with roll call now please.
Vote count: 173
Quorum: 115
Trevor S.: We have a lot of business to get through. Please no outbursts from the floor. Please feel free to disagree but you MUST be respectful. We all love Cocaine Anonymous. Please show respect.
Kevin M.: Point of Personal Privilege: please ask all to only have 1 device connected to the wifi as i keep getting disconnected.
Trevor S.: yes please
Trevor S.: Convention committee resumes
Nathan H.: Ryan R. will read our next motion
Motion 40
Ryan R.: MOTION to accept revisions made to the WSCCC Guidelines, Convention Spending Committee, on current Page 30 with the following revisions.
CONVENTION SPENDING COMMITTEE
The purpose of the World Service Convention Spending Committee is to monitor the approved World Service Convention budget and oversee all requests for expenditures. All sub-committee expenditures in excess of $500 require a minimum of 3 bids be submitted, in writing, to the Convention Spending Committee. Expenses exceeding $100 but less than $500 must be approved by both the Convention Spending Committee and the WSOB. Expenditures which are less than $100 (aka petty cash expenses) are subject to the scrutiny of the host Convention Steering Committee and do not need to be approved by the WSOB.
The Spending Committee shall be comprised of the following members:
- WS Convention Treasurer (Spending Committee Chair)
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- WS Convention Chairperson
- Trustee from Host Region/Area
WSOB- Treasurer shall submit a minimum of two (2) three (3) additional voting members with resumes subject to ratification by the host city Convention Committee officers and Trustee Host City Convention Steering Committee.
SPENDING COMMITTEE DUTIES:
1) Work with the WSO and WSOB Treasurer to set up a petty cash fund and bank accounts.
2) Review and approves all Check Requests in excess of $100 as submitted by the Convention Steering Committee. Check Requests are then forwarded to the WSOB for final approval.
3) Ensure that all Check Requests in excess of $500, when forwarded to the WSOB for final consideration, include a minimum of 3 bids and/or contracts or an explanation of unique circumstances when 3 bids are not available.
4) Ensure that sub-committee Check Requests and/or bids received by the Spending Committee are reviewed and processed within 30-days of receipt. a) Requests will either be referred back to sender with explanation or forwarded to the WSOB for further consideration
5) Research and coordinate with WSO the collection of bids from committee heads and information on materials, i.e. printing, memorabilia, computers, copiers, etc., for purchase and/or lease and/or rental.
6) WSOB and Spending Committee authorize expenditures in excess of $500.00 (five hundred) providing a minimum of three bids has been received.
7) The Spending Committee and WSOB are suggested to, but is not necessarily required to, contract with the lowest bidder.
6) It is suggested that the Spending Committee attempt to contract with the lowest bidder; however, it is not a requirement.
8)7) The WSOB has final approval of expenditures of over $100.00 (one hundred dollars).
Seconded
Trevor S.: Is there debate from the committee or floor?
Kevin M.: Question – the intent of this is to create two separate spending accounts for this, is that correct?
Ryan R.: no
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Pease prepare to vote
Motion Passes substantial unanimity
Motion 41
Tammy L.: MOTION to accept revisions made to the WSCCC Guidelines, General Guidelines, on current Pages 32-35 with the following revisions.
GENERAL GUIDELINES
All other items edited in the General Guidelines are considered Housekeeping only.
Submotion 1:
6)4) Provide space, as needed, for Regional Assemblies and/or Caucuses, World Service Conference Committees, WSBT, and/or WSOB meetings. Create a time slot for a Long Term Planning (LTP) workshop for the fellowship to join the Trustees for long term planning of C.A. as a whole committee workshop/forum and any standing World Service Conference Committee i.e. Hospital and Institutions etc.
Seconded
Debate from the floor:
Wesley B.: as I am reading way more information in attachment D
Trevor S.: those are submotions
Motion passed unanimously
Motion 42
Nathan H.: Submotion 2:
9)7) Make out all contracts to Cocaine Anonymous World Service Office Inc. a California Corporation. CAWSO Inc. will be the contracted entity on all contracts entered into by the Host City of the World Service Convention. No Host City Committee member is authorized to execute any contracts under any circumstances. World Service Trustee and the World Service Office Board Chair are the signing authority for all contracts.
Seconded
Any debate? None from committee
Jason L.: clarity: its talking about the TNC being the signing atho for all contracts but WSBT is the lead.
Has this been removed? It’s usually both WSBT and Office Board.
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Trevor S.: this is an issue of housekeeping. The clarity of this is for the TNC are the authorized signers of the contract.
Jason L.: nevermind
Trevor S.: do we have a Trustee in charge of signing things that can come from the Mic.
Tom P.: The signing auth is as jason stated. It’s the WST and board chair.
Trevor S.: Can we change the language to WST and the WSOBC are the signing authority for all contracts.
Kevin M.: this is better however the the authorized signer – there is still some contradiction to this.
Trevor S.: as this is existing language the only way to fix this is to strike the entire language.
Tom P.: if you could CAWSO Inc is the contracting entity.
Tammy L.: Point of Order: That information is old language. Shouldn’t the referral be inputted to revise that.
Trevor S.: It should be as this is something that the committee brought forward. And since we’re updating it now, we should fix it now and it’s been identified as a problem.
Trevor S.: Is there any further debate?
Wesley B.: question – from a cawso standpoint this seems messy and it seems like there could be a better process for this.
Trevor S.: Sometimes things are messy.
Tom P.: This is an important motion that addresses a real problem and we’ll see it in the finance committee. People aren’t communicating to the office that they shouldn’t be signing. When the language is corrected, it will be helpful to everyone.
Rose J.: Clarification/question: we are out of order. This is an FA. we don’t need a referral, can we get on with this? Let’s push forward.
Trevor S.: prepare to vote
Barbara L.: Is it easier to add the TNC?
Trevor S.: no – they are signing for CAWSO and not a member of that committee
Lucas S.: pass
Barbara L.: this is a concern. We need more than 1 person to look over a contract
Trevor S.: We have 2 and the WSBT.
Vote
Motion Passes unanimously
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Motion 43
Shelby D.: Submotion 3:
9) In keeping with the WSCCC Statement of Purpose to promote unity, open General Committee meetings are encouraged. Use of the Steering Committees are preferable when sensitive matters need to be discussed by Committee.
Seconded
Debate: not from the committee
Ernest M.: what do you define as sensitive material?
Nathan H.: we are not going to define sensitive material
Cynthia C.: Pass
Claudia W.: what is the problem that is trying to be fixed? I do not understand this motion
Nathan H.: the steering committees and all committees are integrable.
Tammy L.: number 10 we struck out and added to number 11 but it was kind of redundant of the internal guidelines. So we made it it’s own number/bullet point.
Ernest M.: without knowing what sensitive items you are talking about, how can I make an informed vote?
Trevor S.: Thank you, Ernest.
Susan L.: it’s up to each Steering committee to discuss things in private, especially money.
Wesley B.: in favour – there is a need to clarify most meeting of the CC should be used for general things and the steering committee for sensitive things
Johan T.: give either full disclosure or keep things private in committee. I speak in favour. Thank you.
Nathan B.: in favour given concept 10 to allow the committee to do the work they need to do
Carl R.: the committee has a steering committee to go through resumes of the different steering committees, which is sensitive information.
Trevor S.: please prepare to vote
Motion passes with substantial unanimity
Motion 44
Robert B.: Submotion 4:
12)11) The WSOB will open one Host City petty cash operating account and one Host City trust account within 90 days of the close of the prior odd- or even-year convention which precedes the Host City’s convention year. 6 months of the Host City being selected.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate from the committee?
It was found that 90 days prior is not enough time given. Raising money starts years prior to the event
Kevin M.: question: the choice of where to open the account remains with the WSO.
Robert B.: We only have 1 account that works internationally and we will work with the WSO together on that.
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Vote
Motion passes with substantial unanimity
Motion 45
Susan L.: Submotion 5:
29)25) It is recommended that the Host City provide various registration options to include, but not limited to, a basic registration, a $99 package, and a $199 package. Items to be included in various packages are determined by the Host City. If an early registration package is offered for under $100.00, items to be included are determined by the host city.
Seconded
Debate: none from the committee
Jackie R.: question: is $199 the max?
Susan L.: that is just an option is all.
Trevor S.: prepare to vote
Motion passes
Motion 46
Nathan H.: Submotion 6:
24) Co-Anon Registration
i) Will be handled using one of the following methods
(1) C.A. will collect the registration fee, provide meeting space, coffee, hospitality room and registration badges.
OR
(2) Co-Anon will handle / collect their own registration fees and provide their own registration badges.
ii) Co-Anon must make a selection of which option it desires not later than March 1st of the year prior to the applicable CAWS Convention. i.e. for the CAWS Convention in 2010, Co-Anon would be requested to inform the WSO of its selected option not later than March 1st 2000.
iii) CAWS registration forms will reflect the Co-Anon option as follows:
iv) If option one is selected, CAWS registration forms will provide a checkbox for Co-Anon members and the following disclaimer:
“While being mindful of the impact of our disease on those who care about us and the support we receive from them, we in Cocaine Anonymous are guided by our Sixth Tradition. As such, we must ensure that our desire to cooperate with Co-Anon in thought, action and spirit does not result in affiliation, either outright or implied.”
v) If option two is selected, CAWS registration forms will not include a registration checkbox for Co-Anon members. However, it will include the following Co-Anon information in the registration section as well as the standard Co-Anon disclaimer:
**NOTE ** For Co-Anon and/or Co-Lateen registration forms, please contact {add info}.
“While being mindful of the impact of our disease on those who care about us and the support we receive from them, we in Cocaine Anonymous are guided by our Sixth Tradition. As such, we must ensure that our desire to cooperate with Co-Anon in thought, action and spirit does not result in affiliation, either outright or implied.”
b) The Host Committee invites Co-Anon to provide a liaison to attend all committee meetings.
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6) Co-Anon representative(s) should work closely with the Host Convention Committee Hotel Liaison to facilitate meeting space and any other on-site arrangements needed for them to carry out their business during the CAWS Convention.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate from the committee – none.
Henry A.: question: what are we doing here? Are we no longer cooperating with Co-Anon?
Nathan H.: we felt this was an outside issue.
Johan T.: I speak against this motion. We need cooperation with co-anon and work together with them.
It will ensure our success.
Elizabeth S.: do you know the history with co anon? 1995 we addressed this issue at this committee. We created a statement talks about we believe the foundation and spirit to work along with co anon is important. The trustees wrote to the fellowship and to co anon why this is so important and that working together is the spirit of our fellowship. In my opinion, this is a horrible way to move forward. Our convention we had a co anon speaker. It’s all about relationships. We would be making a mistake by removing co anon family groups from our guidelines. In my opinion, we never want to do that. We need to practice willingness and love.
Ginger L.: I speak against this motion. Without co anon we would not have gotten sober. They should not have been removed from our guidelines. (AA literature is read re al-anon) we need to look to AA for our guidance. Did co anon do something wrong?
Cynthia C.: Point of Information: as part of the board that met, given the statement provides… (language lost) What is the point in removing this language? Did we contact co anon?
Susan L.: No, because we cannot reach anybody.
Lucas S.: I speak in opposition. My point has already been made.
Susan L.: I speak in favour. Mainly to start a conversation about starting new language about this. This is outdated. I make several calls, texts, etc, trying to get some info for Sunday night in Sweden and got no response. We had everything ready to go. Why do we have to go through all this? We will give them rooms etc but this idea is outdated.
Rose J.: I speak against this motion, I was here in the 90’s when we wrote this. The guidelines indicate “OR”. we don’t kick our family out.
Carl R.: I am for the motion. I am against CA to finance co anon to come to our conventions. The AA conventions sometimes you can’t tell if it is AA or Al Anon. they should have their own registration fees.
Susan B.: I speak against this motion. In this report we tried to add “addicts who still suffer”. Co anon helps with that. New guidelines need to be written but we can’t delete it entirely. We have family days for some people in recovery. There should be some latitude and this section should be referred back to committee.
Claudia W.: I want to speak in favour but I think this should be sent back to committee.
Motion 47
Motion: Refer this back to committee
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Seconded
Debate?
David: we sat through several changes and I believe this should go back to committee
Jay F.: I speak in favour of referring this back to the committee. There are minutes that the committee should read regarding our relationship with co-anon. This is to be defined in the guidelines. This goes against what was said in 1995.
AJ R.: I speak in favour in referring this back to committee. My point has been made. Please update the language instead of striking.
Lucas S.: I am in favour of referring back to committee. The guidelines need to be updated.
Jason L.: I speak in favour of referring back to the committee. New language should be incorporated.
Thank you.
Trevor S.: anyone who wants to speak in opposition? Seeing none, please let’s vote.
All in favour in referring back to committee
Motion passes with substantial unanimity.
Trevor S.: Before the convention committee resumes, we are taking a break.
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Trevor S.: We’re still in reports, please come to the floor. We’re going to hear from each of the upcoming conventions, in order.
Nathan H.: We like to PARTY! Susan will talk now about 2022
Susan L.: Thank you. We’re still partying in Austin. May 26-30. We’re excited to see you and we’re going to keep it weird. Deep in the Heart of Recovery is still our theme. Personally I want to thank NY for their graciousness and loving kindness. We know they had to cancel their event for ours to happen. CAWS2022.org – Registration and hotel information is up there. The registrations that rolled over saved us. Let’s go home and tell everyone that May 2022 is going to be epic. We’re going to be so desperate to see each other by the time the convention comes. Please contact us for any information. Tonight, at dinner we would like to draw the ticket for the winning number. That’s it, thank you for your support.
Trevor S.: Are there any questions for Austin?
Nathan B.: on the referral back to the committee, we’ve been voting through subcommittees, is this just for the broken pieces or the entire document?
Trevor S.: the motions stood because they were broken up for ease to understand it on the floor. Co-anon was sent back to the committee.
Anne M.: question – are the special events that we registered for still in line for us to attend.
Susan L.: Yes, and so are the prices. Everything is ready to go.
Ernest M: Normally there are physical registration forms, how can we get some?
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Susan L.: We can’t get them right now. We ordered a lot and we chose not to reprint them. You can print it from CAWS2022.org. We felt like it was not financially responsible to print more. And the dates would’ve been off too.
Jenn S.: Tickets to be raffled? Can we purchase them online today?
Susan L.: yes
Trevor S.: thank you Austin!
Nathan H.: I’d like to introduce Atlanta, GA
Barbara L.: We like to party too! CAWS 2023 is in full swing, chairs in place, going to be in downtown Atlanta. We are currently accepting submissions for speakers. Please go to our website and reach out to the program chair if you are interested. We’re interested in seeing everybody.
Trevor S.: questions for GA? None, thank you. Q’s for each committee.
Joost V.: CAWS 2024 Chair – Holland, is still on. We’re really looking forward to having you. We’re going to have an incredible time. We want as many people here as possible. The date may be still far away, but we’re working with all of you to make this happen.
Trevor S.: Any questions for Jost? None, thank you.
Nathan H.: Let’s welcome Phoenix to the stage!!
Jay P.: I’ve been blessed to grow up in the SW region. We like to party too! In the desert. We’ll have some introductions who are helping to put this party on. But we want you to know that we came bearing gifts.
Eric: Who likes t-shirts? Here’s the cactus! He’s going to “shoot” the shirts! <Shooting the shirts!!!>
Cactus Jack (new member): Who wants extra large shirts? He’s shooting them again! Now he’s shooting large shirts! Who wants a small? Shooting….. 2XL are on their way.
Randy: The World Convention committee for Arizona is humbly asking for the opportunity to host in 2025. Arizona has taught me about the diversity in our fellowship that shows up over the years. I Love Cocaine Anonymous, we understand what it is to host a convention and want it means to be fiscally responsible. In the last couple of years on zoom, Cocaine Anonymous have found a way to stay relevant and grow. When the opportunity to come face to face becomes possible we would love the opportunity to host 2025. I like to party too!!
Video shown.
Jay P.: We truly do miss you and hope to see you soon. We’re really excited about what you can do for our Arizona area. This will be an amazing event and we’re stoked to host it. We’re open to any questions.
Trevor S.: we need a motion before any questions.
Motion 48
Kerry Wesley: Motion to award 2025 convention to the area (Arizona)
Trevor S.: Is there any debate?
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Robert B.: question – in the event, the meals revenue is high, do you feel confident that you can recreate the models?
Jay P.: Yes, we are confident that we can reproduce those numbers and will adjust accordingly to the numbers. We have a lot of great fundraising activities planned. We’re confident.
Sarah T.: thank you, the bid looks fantastic. Question – has this been vetted in accordance with the current convention guidelines?
Jay P.: Yes it has
Tom P.: Don’t those revised guidelines take effect at the fall of the gavel?
Trevor S.: yes
Dan P.: Isn’t there usually more than 1 bid?
Trevor S.: this is the only bid that we have been presented with. We usually have 2-3 but our guideline states we can approve one.
Cass F.: Question: is the budget information in the box? I can’t find it.
Jay F.: I don’t think so. But the bid package is in the box and the budget is included.
Jen G.: Question: can you turn the heat down a little bit?
Jay P.: Not possible.
Trevor S.: please prepare to vote on the motion.
Motion 48 passes with zero opposition.
Trevor S.: Thank you for the Arizona bid.We still have business to get through, order please.
Nathan H.: Thank you to the committee (introduced all).
The committee made adjustments to the internal guidelines. We went through and addressed all of the referrals. Had elections for the upcoming committee. We added quite a few more members and had a great time!
Trevor S.: Are there any questions for convention?
Joanne P.: This may be a housekeeping statement but in the closing report, I would like to speak strongly against the language against special needs.
Nathan H.: I understand and we’re referencing the title of special needs to the hearing impared, etc.
Joanne P.: The term special needs is very important to me.
Cynthia C.: parliamentary question – was it ruled that the attached was housekeeping? That attachment is stating that you’re adding people to the safe deposit box?
Trevor S.: if that is correct, it will have to come to this body.
Yves W.: the region should have an attachment with attachment D.
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Nathan H.: We didn’t really change any language except capitalization.
Trevor S.: We’ll have to rule that these attachments are not considered housekeeping and will have to be brought up after lunch or in new business. We will now adjourn for lunch. Please return at 1:30pm.
Trevor S.: Call to order at 1:30pm.
Thank you to everyone who made it back on time. Just to run through some stuff. Mandatory masks are in effect in L.A. please comply. For those who haven’t had the template for committee reports, we do need them input into the box. I’m going to talk about the duties on the dias especially regarding reviewing the reports. Russell and I are not the CA police, we are looking for format, anything outside of that is out of our scope. We are not responsible for making sure the traditions are being enforced, you are responsible for this. We were trying to figure out if the conference was going to be completely online, in person or cancelled, we have been working our tails off and we were saddened because we were working hard. We can’t change certain things so we’d like some understanding. This position is the hardest position that i have done and my number 1 hand man is sitting in his living room and not with me and this makes it very hard. We are human and doing our best but we are limited by time, technology as well as try to maintain basic human functions. I love you guys but please help us out. We are working our tails off. We were terrified that this wasn’t going to happen so please cut us some slack, we’re members of the fellowship like you and we are not perfect.
Nathan H.: We want to thank you.
Trevor S.: Are there any questions for the convention committee? None, thank you. Next up is structure and by laws.
Taylor F.: To say this year and last were tough is an understatement. It was hard on everyone, everywhere. Through the tough times we become stronger, wiser, and more adaptive to the change life inevitably throws at us. This is especially true for our committee. We met every challenge head on. From getting the World Service Manual corrections made and turned in on time, to working through 32 referrals in the 2021 year and an additional 6 in 2020. Many of which will come to you on the conference floor as motions. This was a tremendous amount of work. I could not have asked for a better group to work with, and I am forever grateful for the hard work and dedication each member put in month after month. They inspired me to show up and do better. Our committee grew in participants just as more referrals came in. The more work we completed the more we received. It was fast and furious, but I would not have changed one thing about it. Thanks for allowing me to serve.
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Trevor S.: I’m asking the floor to please come to order. We believe we’re back up and running.
Motion 49
Motion: ‘To revise the World Service Conference Structure and Bylaws Committee Guidelines, to include the new Statement of Purpose language and description of new ‘Region and Area Maps Sub-committee.’
Structure and Bylaws Guidelines
Statement of Purpose
The Structure and Bylaws Committee (S&B) is to formulate bylaws, guidelines and a structure by which Cocaine Anonymous can operate day-to-day, at Conferences, Regions, Areas and elsewhere around the World. We execute with great diligence, the task of being of maximum service to our fellowship, by introducing new verbiage into a comprehensive, easy to read, World Service Manual (WSM). This manual
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will be distributed in the first quarter of the year following our conference, allowing our fellowship to grow and flourish. The committee also maintains Region and Area maps, to be accessible at ca.org.
Seconded
Henry A.: What exactly do the maps mean?
Trevor S.: they are the boundaries of each area that is currently seen.
Debate?
Jason L.: Pass
Trevor S.: Please prepare to vote
Motion passed with minor opposition.
Motion 50
Motion:
Functions
At the World Service Conference (WSC) and other times during the year, the Structure and Bylaws Committee is asked to investigate concerns regarding our current World Service Manual and either challenge the request by identifying a current solution or create new verbiage to present to the Conference floor, through which, we accommodate the referral. When creating new verbiage, careful deliberation is undertaken in finding a solution that considers functionality and longevity.
The Structure and Bylaws Committee ‘Region and Area Maps Sub-committee’ creates and maintains maps of new Areas and Regions and / or changes to existing Areas and Regions following recognition / approval by the WSC.
REGION AND AREA MAPS SUB-COMMITTEE
Following each WSC any changes to Region or Area maps are updated and maintained on appropriate software. Once the S&B Committee has reviewed the updated individual maps, they are sent to the relevant Regional Trustee for written approval prior to the revised World map being issued to the World Service Office for uploading to the World Website. A copy of the revised World map is issued to the WSC Archives Committee along with copies of the individual Area and Region Trustee approvals.
SUB-COMMITTEE OFFICERS
Sub-committee Chair
- Preside over all Sub-committee meetings.
- Prepare sub-committee agendas.
- Interact with Trustees and WSO.
- Submit a report for monthly S&B Committee conference calls and S&B Committee reports to the WSC.
- Serves a one-year term.
Sub-committee Secretary
- Keeps accurate minutes of each meeting of the Sub-committee.
- General communications throughout the year with the Sub-committee.
- Serves a one-year term.
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Kevin M.: POINT OF ORDER this is a change to the internal guidelines and this is not set to the floor to debate.
Trevor S.: this goes into the WSM therefore is not housekeeping.
Trevor S.: please proceed with your motion.
Joanne P.: rereads the motion
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate – none from committee
Prepare to vote
Motion Passed
Motion 51
Motion: To change the language of Item E on page 13 as follows:
E. Any media (printed, electronic, or otherwise) to be made available by the group, district, or area, to the fellowship, shall have prior approval from the respective service body. For this purpose, the respective service body is the Area/District Service Committee to which you are aligned or the World Service Office for groups that are not in an Area/District.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate from the floor?
Vote
Motion passes unanimously
Motion 52
Motion: To make World Service Manual of Cocaine Anonymous non-binary and non-gender specific. Seconded
Trevor S.: Is this in regard to the WSM or all literature?
Just the wsm please.
Trevor S.: I rule this motion out of order
Out of Order
Motion 53
Rose J.: Friendly Amendment: it states literature, but can we change to WSM instead?
POINT OF ORDER: Kevin M.: Motion can be changed as long as its by unanimous consent.
FA Accepted.
Any objections from the floor? Seeing none, the motion is amended.
Lucas S.: Pass
Carl R.: i think the whole motion is out of order. To change the WSM pronouns, from he/she to they/their
Trevor S.: I am going to rule this out of order as we do not have authority to make these changes to steps and traditions at this time.
Out of order
Motion 54
Motion to change language on page 63 of the WSM as follows:
Chairperson
Vice-Chairperson
Secretary
Treasurer
Director(s)-At-Large
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Director of Conventions and Conferences
World Service Trustee
World Service Office Trustee
Paid Director of Resources & Project Development Paid Director(s)
Paid Director of Operations
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate the motion? Seeing none…
Please prepare to vote
Motion passed with substantial unanimity
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Motion 55
Motion to change language on page 17 of the WSM as follows:
Closed: Attendance is limited to C.A. members only., and those with a desire to stop using cocaine and all other mind-altering substances.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Is there any debate from the floor
Please prepare to vote:
Motion passed with minor opposition.
Motion 56
Motion to strike language and add new language (strike groups’ GSR and add DSC):
Page 21 It is suggested that ten (10) or more groups comprise a District and that each ten
(10) groups or part thereof, elect a District Service Representative to sit on the Area Service Committee.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Any debate from the floor?
Parliamentary Inquiry: Kevin M.: in my copy there are two parts to this, one on 21 and the other on 22, is this intended to be separated?
Trevor S.: I read it as it was read on the floor. Any other debate? Prepare to vote:
Motion passes with minor opposition.
Motion 57
Cindy C.: Motion to organize the World Service Manual in three sections as follows:
- Pages 1-38: Cocaine Anonymous and Our Service Structure
- Pages 39-85: Cocaine Anonymous World Service
- Pages 86-90: Appendices
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1.Robert’s Rule of Order Motion Chart
2.List of C.A. Literature
3.Advisory Opinion
4.Changes in the (year) WSM
Seconded
Trevor S.: Any debate from the floor?
Rose J.: Point Of Order: That other mention about the binary motion was sent back and now you’re putting a list of literature down so next year will that create more time and money?
Taylor F.: the list is already in the manual so I don’t believe that it will create any more time and/or money.
Trevor S.: please stay as close to the mic as possible. Please prepare to vote.
Motion passes with substantial unanimity
Motion 58
Motion to add translations as a standing committee for areas.
WSM p. 25:
[…]
The Area serves the Fellowship by distributing chips and literature, carrying out local translations, in accordance with the World Service office translation policy and process.
handling […]
SUGGESTED AREA FUNCTIONS
- The Area Service Committee is entrusted with local service board incorporation, if required
- Coordinates Area telephone services.
- Distributes, and/or sells literature and chips; carries out local translations where required in accordance with the World Service office translation policy and process.
- Standing Committees include:
[a-k]
I. Translations
WSM p. 29:
Translations: Responsible for local translation of materials. For C.A. copyright items in accordance with the World Service office translation policy and process.
Seconded
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Trevor S.: Is there any debate on the floor?
Jenn S.: on LCF we were discussing this, in regards to translation of the literature, have you consulted with LCF on this?
Taylor F.: We have not spoken with LCF because we are not changing the translation, we are understanding the process of the translations.
Motion 59
Friendly Amendment: on page 25 item in accordance with the WS office translation policy and process.
FA adopted.
Any debate?
All those in favor:
Motion passes with substantial unanimity
Motion 60
Nathan B.: Motion to make the following change to page 31 of the WSM:
1. Delegates and Alternate Delegates are to be elected to the WSC by each Area. Each Area shall have three (3) two (2) votes which may be carried by up to three (3) end strike two (2) Area Delegates or Alternate Delegates in person or by proxy, as set forth in the Standing Rules for the Cocaine Anonymous World Service Conference. If an Area has more than 75 25 meetings per week of its groups (excluding H&I), then that Area will be entitled to one additional vote for every additional fifty (50) meetings per week of its groups (or portion Thereof). If an Area has any question concerning the number of votes to which it is entitled, That Area should contact its Regional Trustee or the WSO.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Is there any debate from the floor?
Robby S.: I’m against this motion, you are taking away from an area. We’ve talked in the past about representation of the area and without taking a look at the online meetings, do they believe this will affect an area, online service, etc.
Rick K.: strongly opposed to this motion. I understand the point and with coming in with 3 delegates, maybe it can be changed from here on out, but to take away voices is not fair. We have a small area and to take away votes isn’t fair, we want our vote to count.
Justin C.: I’m against the motion, it seems this is limited to the areas, every time we send someone to a conference, they bring back a skill set. The areas shouldn’t be limited to sending a limited amount of delegates to conference.
Nathan B.: I’m in favor of the motion. I love the opportunity to participate, because I believe our fellowship is growing. We’ve been adding members and meetings. We have 3 delegates from all areas coming to the conference and we are a small area but new areas are popping up. They are being given the opportunity to grow and new members are now coming to the conference and areas are growing as well. Let’s spread out and have an accurate representation of the fellowship as a whole.
Michael C.: in favor of the motion, it’s meant to level the playing field. We’re not holding anyone hostage, we want to make CA accessible to everyone. When they walk into this room for the first time, they should feel that their voice counts.
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Megan B.: I speak against the motion but I do understand it and I feel that would be a matter for restructuring and I drive through 4 different areas to get here and some areas are bigger than others.
Jason L.: I’m for the motion, most has been said what I wanted to say but it’s reasonable to revise this so more can represent their area. It sounds more reasonable for smaller areas. It’s much easier to have much larger representation when it doesn’t cost that much more.
Ryan R.: I’m against the motion, it will change a lot of votes.
Cynthia C.: POINT OF ORDER: This is what happened in 2019, it seems to me there were some issues about future conferences. Have any of the other committees taken a look at this?
Nathan B.: I had that discussion with the conference comm chair and this motion has been submitted twice and is not a surprise on this floor.
Jessie G.: I would need an accurate number of how many areas would be affected. I don’t know if it would affect the contract for the next 2 years. There is a commitment for room nights and F&B at the next conferences.
Kevin M.: I speak for the motion, this only affects areas with fewer than 25 meetings per week. That is what the motion states -if you have 26 (you get 3) and so on. 25 or fewer, you get 2 votes. Typically the smaller areas do not send 3 delegates and in the 90’s the delegates were within 10-15 minutes away and 1 delegate was sent to the conference. They were trying to get to send 3 delegates to conference for everybody and that wasn’t fair. We have a lot of small areas, especially after area splits. The votes are diproportiant to areas of different sizes. This doesn’t fix the problem but it makes it a bit fairer.
Trevor S.: Do not yell out on the floor, please raise your hand if you wish to have a say on the floor.
Point of Order:
Judd Wayne: There’s some verbiage that needs to occur for clarity for the exact motion, I’m confused with the original reading.
Tammy L.: I’m against the motion, we are all inclusive and although this won’t affect my area, I feel like it will affect other areas. But by representation of other areas, they will continue to grow.
Tom P.: I’m in favor of this motion, but what we’re talking about is God expressing himself at the conference of the gathering. The consciousness is distorted right now, the concern about the hotel not having enough room is not there. The right of the decision (sometimes two from one area) from the area the delegate is speaking through the groups is way different than that of a delegate speaking from between 10 – 40 meetings. We’re not getting the voices where the numbers are bigger in different areas and only 3 delegates are coming. Typically most delegates are from areas that have less than 25 meetings.
Cass F.: I speak against the motion for points already raised, but also because we don’t know the numbers from all areas.
Parthiban T.: I’m against the motion. I believe that Cocaine Anonymous should be more inclusive and this motion does the complete opposite. I come from a large area and I feel this motion is taking away from the other areas.
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Sarah T.: I’m in favor as it is going in the right direction of collective consciousness. The size of the meetings is not a true representation of the fellowship. I’m here to listen and seek my own consciousness to vote. It’s about participation when you are here, not the votes.
Christy S.: I’m against the motion, we only had 28 meetings when I got here but our meetings have decreased due to some people only wanting to go to the same meetings, Seven zoom meetings have been opened this past year and I host a lot of meetings, we may make our 25 and if I have to get us to 25 and I will since we are all dedicated to helping out the different committees.
Edward M.: I have a question – did the committee or can the committee present numbers how this specific proposal fixes this and what will the effect be global?
Nathan B.: when the committee originally brought this motion to the floor there were charts and tables and we were instructed to not put this onto the report.
Elizabeth S.: Question – who’s going to police that new number? How’s the process going to work? How did you come to that number?
Nathan B.: I don’t have a solid answer, but the process is defined in the WS manual. Our proposal is not taking that into account.
Paul S: I’m against the motion, you are entitled to an equal number of representation. Those who are attending are so enthusiastic and going back to their fellowship and growing in numbers. The language does state that the numbers are entitled to a specific amount of delegates.
Lucas S.: I speak In favor of the motion, the responsibility is to look at this as a whole (European countries). I see the struggles to bring their full votes due to financial problems, it’s not about losing something it’s about being fair and let’s please take a look at this. How can this help CA around the world? This doesn’t take away anyone’s right to attend the conference. If you lose that vote, you can always bring another person, you don’t need a vote to debate on the floor. But we shouldn’t be hurting another region or area.
Jacqueline R.: I’m against the motion, committees put together events throughout the year, we in NY fundraised to get here. In NY we come with the understanding to listen to all motions and cast our votes with our own consciousness for our area.
Vicki R.: I’m against the motion, it’s hard to understand the driving force behind this motion. It doesn’t appear that any additional information has been provided to get to the numbers. How do we want to be represented? This motion doesn’t address that issue. I do agree there’s an issue though.
Henry A.: I’m for the motion, it’s not unfair. I think it’s about proportionate representation. We do answer to our areas but we’re looking for as many voices as possible. We had more meetings before COVID and we probably will be losing a delegate because of COVID. The more chances we have to get people here, the better.
Laura E.: Friendly Amendment for the numbers:
For every additional 50 meetings above 25 per this group, that area shall have an additional vote.
Susan B.: I speak against this motion, I don’t think we have the proper information. We’ve been told by the conference secretary that we have the numbers to meet the room night and the F&B over the next 2 years. We don’t know what’s going to happen in the coming years and believe that this motion needs more due diligence.
Vicki R.: pass
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Judson Wing: pass
Ernest M.: I’m against this motion, nothing happens in God’s world by mistake; small areas don’t get the opportunity to put on a convention often so the larger areas do it. There’s no one who came here that doesn’t have a passion to be here. It’s not about being fair, it’s not the small areas that are driving this. If a bigger hotel is needed, get a bigger hotel. The more the merrier. This is about encouraging, not discouraging.
David L.: I’m against this motion, the landscape of number of meetings has changed since 2019. I would like to see current meeting numbers so that we can see how this would affect it.
Tom T.: I’m for the motion, I can see that this motion would hurt the fellowship. The smaller groups are already sending 2 delegates. If the group has an informed consciousness, the group will vote accordingly. This won’t make it perfect but it will make it better.
Gregory B.:
Motion 61: Call the question
Trevor S.: Motion passes with substantial unanimity.
Motion 60 – prepare to vote:
Motion: 73 in favor – 74 opposed
Motion fails
Tammy L.: Question is it too late for the “call for the question” to make a 5th concept statement or am I still able to make one?
———————–3:51 Break—————
Trevor S.: Order at 4:10pm
Russell S.: I just spoke to trevor. I want to make it clear that we need to consider what we are discussing and the importance of speaking about these issues. Take a look at the agenda. Take a look at what is left to work on. The gavel falls tomorrow at 1:00pm. Take a look at all the work we need to get through and we still have a tremendous amount of work to do. Rep of the groups counts now too. I appeal to you to pause for a moment, take a look at the work/agenda and consider what is left to do. We have 2 hours today and 3 hours tomorrow.
Trevor S.: The first item of business tomorrow will be the executive office positons. Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary.
Before I allow 5th concepts, it is for the thoughts or opinions that were missed or not heard. Please keep that in mind. We discussed this for 2.5 hours.
Taylor F.: we would like to not move forward with the division of the house at this time.
Trevor S.:we will now take 5th concept statements
Tammy L.: Pass
Kevin M.: 5th concept statement, listening to Russell just now, this is a close vote. Does this actually show the equality of the representation of this vote? I am from a small area. We have 2 delegates here. I heard discussion to not allow this to come up again. People voted no because they did not understand it. Committee please bring this back next year.
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Motion 62
Jason L.: Motion: to suspend the rules, please, to change the current agenda for times of today’s sessions. I would like to return for dinner in an hour after 6:00pm and come back to work. Seconded
Point of Order: Cynthia C. – a motion to suspend the rules is not debatable.
Trevor S.: You are correct.
All in favour, please vote
Motion passes
Back to S&B for their report please
Zack A.: 5th concept: please make it clear that there was a lot of hang up on inclusion and exclusion. On an area level, we all have a voice, but we are doing our fellowship a disservice by not allowing this motion to pass
Susan B.: Can I make a motion to limit debate on 5th concept statements?
Trevor S.: 5ths are allowed in our fellowship
Jessi G.: Pause for now, thank you
Nathan B.: 5th concept: concept 2 says CA groups allow for the voice of our whole fellowship. I am more than a rep of my area. 4th says we must maintain the right of participation and voting representation within proportion etc. When I do the math, the proposal of the motion allows for 7 less delegates on the floor. That is a distortion of rep. Does this floor feel a meeting with 3 meetings or 73 meeting deserve the same participation
Daniel S.: 5th concept: representation and money are an issue. What I have not heard is the integration of zoom meetings as those will increase those areas. Etc. i dont think it’s fair to tell a larger area to split so that they can have the same representation as another area.
Jason A.: I believe people are reacting to fear and not centred in their HP. We bring spirituality and business together. How did you react? Fear? Then bring this motion back to the floor. Thank you
Motion 63
Robin Greenway: Motion to reconsider
Trevor S.: Did you vote with the prevailing side?
Robin G.: Yes
Seconded
Trevor S.: Do you wish to debate your motion?
Robin G.: not at this time
Robby S.: I speak against the motion to reconsider as nothing new has come to the table since 2 years ago. Plus there is no direction on how to remove a vote from a current delegate.
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Kevin M.: Against the motion to reconsider. We don’t have the time and we’ve already thoroughly discussed it. Less fear, more hope next year. We talked about this long enough and it should be done
Motion
Motion: Henry A.: call the question
Trevor S.: you are out of order – we’ve only had 2 people choose to debate.
Ginger L.: against the motion as the underlying motion is unclear.
Tammy L.: against this motion
Trevor S.: Anyone for the motion to reconsider
Wesley B.: the previous question lost by 1 vote. I think it is too narrow to fairly resolve this motion
Tom P.: I speak in favour if this motion goes back to committee for reconsideration
Susan B.: against motion because I am an addict. How we think and behave. All I have to do is set up a zoom call to one other addict to get another vote.
Michael C.: in favour, because it’s not done yet. Something that close needs to be discussed until we get a better conclusion. Otherwise we will bring this back. We have numbers. We will reach teh conclusion that everyone will agree on.
Parthi T.: against, its too close. There is a lot of passion and thoughts here and it needs to go back to committee.
Cynthia C.: the reason for a motion to reconsider: reads from RR. There is no reason to review this again until the committee has more information and can discuss further.
Motion 64
Motion: Rose J.: Call the question
Seconded
Vote
Passed
Trevor S.: Now vote on the preceding motion to reconsider
Motion fails
Motion 65
Motion to change the language on page 34 of the WSM as follows:
REQUIREMENTS TO CHANGE REGION OR BECOME A REGION
1. Two-Thirds approval in person or in writing of all GSR from the Area(s). Approval in person or in writing of the GSR from Two-Thirds of the groups in the Petitioning Area(s).
2. Two-Thirds approval in person or in writing of all World Service Delegates from the Area(s). Two-Thirds approval in person or in writing of the World Service Delegates from the Petitioning Area(s).
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Seconded
Debate: not at this time from committee
Please vote
Motion Passed
Motion 66
Julian H.: Motion to change language on page 17 as follows:
Those attending meetings are reminded that any opinions or interpretations they may hear are solely those of the speaker or participant involved. All members are free to interpret the recovery program in their own terms, but none can speak for the local Group or C.A. as a whole. Any group that wishes to become a C.A. group may reach out to their local district/area to be added to their area directory or register the group with C.A. World Services.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Any Debate?
Please prepare to vote
Motion passed
Motion 67
Greg Montgomery: Motion to change the language on page 16 of the WSM as follows:
A meeting is when Two or more people gather together C.A. members meeting regularly to share their experience, strength and hope with each other.
A meeting may call itself themselves a C.A. Cocaine Anonymous Group when:
- The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using cocaine and all other mind-altering substances.
- It is fully self-supporting.
- Its primary purpose is to help addicts recover through the Twelve Steps of C.A.
- It has no outside affiliations.
- It has no opinion on outside issues.
- Its public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion.
Seconded
Debate from the floor?
Cynthia C.: the WSM calls the meeting a group, but there is also the previous motion says that a group can make a petition to their area.
Trevor S.: The chapter headings are different. Take a look. They are separate issues.
Jason L.: question was already asked.
Vote
Motion passed
Motion 68
Motion to change the language on page 16 of the WSM as follows:
THE C.A. GROUP
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The basic unit in C.A. is the local Group, which is autonomous except in matters affecting other Groups or C.A. as a whole. The Group has but one primary purpose, which is to help others to recover through the suggested Twelve Steps. Each Group is self-supporting through its own contributions. As the Twelve Steps are our guide to recovery, the Twelve Traditions are our guide to Group unity, growth and discipline. Its members maintain their personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, television and films.
The importance of the Group, what it constitutes and its functions cannot be stressed enough. Maintenance of our recovery depends on the sharing of our experience, strength and hope with each other, thus helping us to identify and understand the nature of our disease. A group typically meets at a regular time each week. Those that meet multiple times a week are known as multi-meeting groups.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Debate?
Ginger L.: question: if you are counting meetings individually, or counting groups, does this reduce the meeting count?
Trevor S.: No
Ginger L.: Thank you
Christy S.: if the meetings have different secretaries etc., are they a group, or meetings?
Trevor S.: those are meetings – they are groups and different meetings.
Christy S.: so all meetings in my area at the same location are now a group?
Trevor S.: they are individual meetings. A group has meetings. Every group has a GSR, secretary etc. that group has meetings. Same people, in different group is a separate meeting.
Wesley B.: this brings me to the opposite point. Group with 5 meetings gets one vote?
Trevor S.: that’s up to the area and not up to this body.
Jason L.:
Further debate? Seeing none
Vote
Motion passed
Motion 69
Motion to change the language on page 13 of the WSM:
D. To avoid implied affiliation, when referencing the name Cocaine Anonymous, the block letter CA, the official Cocaine Anonymous logo (hereinafter logo), future variations of the logo, and the motto We’re Here and We’re Free, on publications such as flyers, newsletters, directories, the following disclaimer should be used: “In the spirit of Tradition Six, C.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution.” Avoid using designs that incorporate external organizations, graphics, and logos, trademarks when producing fellowship flyers or memorabilia.
Seconded
Debate? Not from committee
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Megan B.: question: would an example be asking us not to include QR codes?
Taylor F.: That is not what we are trying to do. We are more concerned about the Coca-Cola shirts, etc.
Ty S.: I speak in favour of this motion. We have already passed several things that protects our branding etc.
Gillian M.: question: with groups that have banners, are we asking them to remove logos etc. or just to avoid them?
Taylor F.: what a group decides to do is at their discretion.
Robby S.: would this stop people from selling shirts here at conference from selling here at conference?
Trevor S.: We are talking about outside logos. Not CA logos.
Taylor F.: We are not the CA police. The WSM would recommend against it.
Jason L.: The language is about future production of new memorabilia. New designs. Please avoid other logos.
Bert S.: question: to no longer make logos out of famous logos? Like Coca-Cola? Correct?
Taylor F.: correct.
Susan B.: like the zoom logo on a meeting flyer?
Taylor F.: We are talking about printed logos. If we are using famous/outside logos.
Robby S.: I speak against the motion. Tradition 6 is pretty clear. We have come across other logos and I have gotten so much push back for what I have produced. We are to police each other. Like, who is going to enforce this? I speak against it.
Michael C.: the point of this is that CA is not affiliated with anything else. We are our own entity and are not bound by any other entity. You can do what you want, but we are making a suggestion that your tshirt logo not rep anything else.
Brenda M.: I speak for this motion for litigation purposes. We may be infringing on someone elses trademark.
Kevin M.: I agree with brenda. Who polices this? We do. Your district or area should. We dont want to get sued by Coca-Cola
Parliamentary Inquiry: Megan B.: can a non voting member call teh question
Trevor S.: no
Wade S.: I speak for this motion and my points have already been made. This is about protecting us from outside organizations.
Parthi T.: Motion to call the question except I cant.
Motion 70
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Zach A.: Motion: Call the question.
Seconded
Motion Passed
Vote on previous motion 69
Motion passed
Motion 71
Motion to create an Online Services Committee as a new World Service Standing Committee. Seconded
Debate?
Elizabeth S.: question: does that mean the online service area will become their own…
Taylor F.: we are just suggesting
Trevor S.: did this go before finance?
Taylor F.: it went out in SR14
Susan B.: I speak in favour and the world has changed and so has our fellowship. We need to figure out this new world within our fellowship. This was sent by the OSA to gain some guidance. If the online experience is going to be expanded, we need for this committee to hash all this out and develop best practices. This would be an important committee.
Megan B.: I was a delegate when i made this referral to the body. Do you want one area (OSA) deciding all the things regarding online options? No. we need structure. We cant leave all this to one area to make all the decisions.
Nathan B.: Pass
AJ R.: Pass
Parliamentary Inquiry: Anne M.: would this fall under standing rule 13? (reads SR) Does this apply and was it referred to committee?
Trevor S.: Jonathan and Jessi to the mic: has this come to committee?
Jonathan H.: no
Jessi G.: no sir
Trevor S.: we have had this happen several times, this is inadmissible under SR 13.
Kevin M.: I appeal the chair’s decision.
Trevor S.: I hand this over to Russell to handle.
Russell S.: please pick up the call, George.
Russell S.: So, I’m in a unique situation here. If there’s no objection I’ve asked a trustee to assist.
Parliamentary Inquiry:
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Russell S.: Wade please come to the dais
Kevin M.: I intend to also appeal the decision of the chair regarding the allowance of a parliamentary Inquiry. Standing rule 13 and 14 does not allow adequate notice to all committees as needed. This is something that stifles the will of the assembly. SR 13 has been used several times in this way. They have been notified. They know we are going to do this. We should enforce SR 14 and use SR 13 the way we are supposed to. I appeal the decision of the chair most respectfully..
Motion 72
Jason L.: I appeal the decision of the chair. This was on LTP for over a year and all the committees, specifically IT, the second purpose of this is to carry guidance. IT was ok with this as their purpose is to help with online work. We were informed that S&B had a referral as well. This comes from the OSA and has been discussed with them. COnference committee is involved with the conference, not this. And a very small amount of finance. It has gone through a number of people. I think this needs to move forward.
Parliamentary Inquiry: Lucas S.: was the chair given the opportunity to debate?
Russell S.: Yes, he has.
Wade S.: I have Jonathan here.
Johnathan H.: I support the decision of the chair. It does impact finances. The fact that is it is SR 13. It fully impacts us and I uphold the decision of the chair.
Susan B.: I don’t support the decision of the chair. The OSA does not want to wait on this. We are not ready to take on the world of the online area. We were invited to LTP but we couldn’t do anything without a statement of purpose. I was told that we should become a region, but was told it would cost too much money.
Point of Order: Ty S.: discussion is supposed to be limited to the decision of the chair.
Russell S.: please stick to the appeal of the chair
Susan B.: We were not told to send this to any other committee. We were let down.
Anne M.: I support the chair. It affects the budget. Providing meeting space. I appreciate the necessity to get guidance, but this needs to be considered regarding finances.
Robby S.: I speak in favour that SR 14 was enough to bring this up. He just said that. And now we are creating confusion.
Joanne P.: I speak against the decision of the chair. CAUK online was hard to create. We are in need of guidance.
Russell S.: please keep to the decision to appeal.
Dawn M.: I speak in favour of the chair. We need to understand the importance of the standing rules and they are very clear. I speak about the decision of the chair because the motion implicated and wasn’t defined.
Russel S.: thanks Dawn.
Vicki R.: I speak in favour of the chair. Our committees meet. This is the third time it has come up. I support the chair’s decision.
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Parliamentary Inquiry: Susan B.: can we put the referral on the screen.
Russell S.: no
Greg B.: it is dinner time
Russell S.: please return at 7:00pm sharp
Russel S. opened at 7pm.
Wade S.: If you are outside, please enter the room so we can resume.
Russel S.: can someone please go out in the hallways and ask them to return to their seats? Online attendees have returned online, can everyone on the conference floor please sit down? Thank you. We are back to the appellant of the chair. I’m going to go through the list as it was given to me.
Wesley B.: I support in favor of the ruling, I understand that the underlying motion is the way it is but it is being put off for too much time. We really need to put some rules into this situation.
Michael C.: I speak against the chair’s decision. Putting the cart before the horse, S&B put forth a concept for a committee. It went to SR14 to consider and it was premature to say no, we can’t have that when it’s not in place yet. The decision to strike the motion is premature. This needs to go forward so that we can create a committee.
Elizabeth S.: Pass
Tom P.: I speak in favor, contrary to what i heard, SR13 is to encourage communication between the fellowship. Introducing a new committee is a big deal. This SR14 was massive. This was a one line motion. It should have been communicated to finance. He asked the chairs about the level of communication and it was shared that nothing came to them. I’m not opposed to creating a standing committee and that’s what SR13 does.
Wade S.: A reminder, that once Trevor speaks no one else can speak after him.
Trevor S.: First of all, I made this ruling for a couple of reasons. I could’ve let this go. Why did I make this ruling? 1. I have seen this come up time after time and it makes me sad that since we have a handy body and you do understand what it means to submit it and it wasn’t. 2. Actions at the conference fall into effect at the fall of the gavel. This will be a new standing and there is no due diligence with the new conferences coming forward. Not everyone here knew what was happening. I never want another chair to have to go through this again. The SR14 is very important. In 2019 the committees involved were informed that it had to be followed. A new standing committee at the conference needs more time to be put together. We’ve already negotiated contracts for hotels next year for future conferences. I don’t want another chair to go through this. Other committees should’ve been notified and contacted. This is not personal, this turns out as it does.
Russell S.: prepare to vote to uphold the decision of the chair or to not to. Wade please watch the floor.
Please vote:
Motion to uphold the decision of the chair
Motion passes to support the decision of the chair.
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Russell S.: I’m asking the trustee’s and committee chairs for a list of priorities for the decision of the floor. I’m going to speak to Trevor to put something in place to prioritize the time remaining as we have only a few hours of business left. Can we please consider the time we have left? Let’s ask ourselves what did we achieve at the conference? Thank you. Gavel back to Trevor.
Trevor S.: 3 for/3 against. Let’s go back to S&B.
Taylor F.: No more motions. Closing comments. Told of the new members of the committee. I’m truly grateful for the opportunity to serve over the last 2 years as the chair of the Structure and Bylaws committee. It has been one of the hardest and most rewarding things I’ve ever done. I most definitely did not fit the mold of what I thought a typical chair to this committee looks like. There was a large learning curve. This committee made my job easy. They showed enthusiasm, ambition, and patience throughout the year. We were able to accomplish so much and persevere through all the hurdles we have all endured in the past 2 years. I feel the committee will be in great hands and continue to make strides for the betterment of the fellowship that saved my life.
Trevor S.: Any questions for the committee? None, thank you to the S&B.
Trevor S.: next committee LCF as they make their way up to the podium.
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Justin C.: Your Literature, Chips, and Formats Committee has been working diligently to move forward through our approval processes the concepts which have been approved by the WSC in years past. We have received several referrals from members and feedback on the items mailed to Delegates as per Standing Rule 14. The committee has reviewed and discussed these items, as well as others which have arisen from our own committee work, in the weeks leading up to and during this Conference session. These discussions have resulted in the below motions, actions, and responses, which are an expression of the LCF groups conscience. Mr Chair please have our
Motion 73
Michael:
MOTION: APPROVE THE DRAFT PAMPHLET, “WHO IS A C.A. MEMBER”, AS PER POINT 10 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
Seconded
Trevor S.: Any debate from the floor? See none, please prepare to vote.
Motion passes unanimously
Motion 74
MOTION: APPROVE THE DRAFT WALLET SIZED CARD, “THUS WE GROW” AS PER POINT 10 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
Seconded
Trevor S.: any debate from the floor?
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Gillian M.: as much as I like having information for newcomers, I stand against this motion as we already have a pamphlet for the newcomers. I don’t see an abundance of buying for this pamphlet.
Jason L.: I speak in favor of the motion, this isn’t another pamphlet, its a card that can be handed out to newcomers that they can keep in their back pocket.
Tom T.: I speak for the motion, it’s a card for your pocket.
Gillian M.: Will the cost for this card be included in the license agreement?
Justin C.: The cost is not determined by LCF, we just would like to approve it. The office will decide on the price.
Judd W.: I speak in favor of the pamphlet and please don’t minimize the importance of pamphlets.
Trevor S.: Prepare to vote
Trevor S.: motion passes with minor opposition
Motion 75
Jenn S.: MOTION: APPROVE THE DRAFT PAMPHLET, “OUR COMMON WELFARE” AS PER POINT 10 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
Dawn M.: I speak in favor of this pamphlet, it is meant to help and support our members.
Ed M.: I speak in favor of this pamphlet.
Justin C.: This pamphlet has been asked for repeatedly in the UK. It’s quite different in the UK from here and it’s been asked for by guidance for the group.
David L.: I speak highly in favor of the pamphlet, we have a number of groups that have questions about the topics covered in here and it would be great to have a CA approved pamphlet that addresses this.
Jenn S.: I am in favor of this motion, some topics are very sensitive and have been asked to be discussed. It’s to hold people accountable and it’s about the teaching and learning about the issues that it brings up. This pamphlet is very well crafted.
Lucas S.: I speak strongly in favor of this pamphlet.
Catherine E.: What we’re trying to get across is for individuals coming in to protect our anonymity and the rights of the children. You don’t have to sit and hide.
Trevor S.: prepare to vote.
Motion passes with minor opposition.
Motion 76
Justin C.: MOTION: APPROVE THE DRAFT PAMPHLET, “COCAINE ANONYMOUS ONLINE:
UNLIMITED SEATING 24/7/365”, AS PER POINT 10 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
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Seconded
Trevor S.: prepare to vote
Motion passes unanimously
Shawn B.: MOTION: APPROVE THE CONCEPT OF A NEW PAMPHLET “THE POWER OF PI” AS PER POINT 4 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
Darlene L.: I like this idea but don’t love the first sentence. Our primary purpose is to continue to take steps to the suffering addict.
Cythia C.: I approve the motion, we’re just asking for a start.
Lucas S.: I speak in favor. My point has been made
Kimberly C.: I speak in favor, we have a statement of purpose (reads the statement of purpose) our goal is to reach out to the addict who still suffers.
Trevor S.: prepare to vote
Motion passes with minor opposition
Motion 77
Tamarah W.: MOTION: APPROVE THE CONCEPT OF A NEW PAMPHLET ABOUT SERVICE SPONSORSHIP AS PER POINT 4 OF THE C.A. PAMPHLET APPROVAL PROCESS.
Trevor S.: Any debate from the floor, seeing none, prepare to vote.
Motion passes with minor opposition.
Motion 78
Brenda: MOTION: APPROVE THE 2021 LCF COMMITTEE GUIDELINES REVISION
Trevor S.: Motion is out of order, you do it in housekeeping.
Motion 79
Justin C.: MOTION: EDIT THE EXISTING LANGUAGE AND ADD NEW OPTIONAL LANGUAGE IN THE 7TH TRADITION SECTION OF THE SUGGESTED PARTICIPATION MEETING FORMAT, THE SUGGESTED STEP STUDY MEETING FORMAT, AND THE SUGGESTED GENERAL SPEAKER MEETING FORMAT:
(PARENTHETICAL LANGUAGE REMAINS UNCHANGED) We are fully self-supporting through our own contributions. At this time we will observe the 7th Tradition. Please remain quietly seated while the baskets are being passed.
(OPTIONAL) The Seventh Tradition is where spirituality and money mix. Our members’ contributions support C.A.’s primary purpose by paying meeting expenses such as rent, literature and chips. Leftover money is then passed on to our District/Area and World Services to help maintain websites, publish and translate literature, provide chips and so much more, enabling C.A. to grow and flourish around the world. When you contribute, remember that you are helping carry the message to the addict who still suffers. We are here and we are free!
Seconded
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Trevor S.: debate?
Jenn S.: when we wrote this 7th tradition (2019) it was written with the help of those around the world, this is just a suggested format. I’m in favor of this motion.
Trevor S.: please prepare to vote
Motion passes unanimously
Motion 80
Justin C.: MOTION: EDIT THE TITLE OF THE PAMPHLET “C.A. IS ALSO FOR THE LGBTQ+ ADDICT”
AS FOLLOWS: C.A. IS ALSO FOR THE LGBTQ+ ADDICT
Trevor S.: Any debate? Seeing none, please prepare to vote.
Motion passes with minor opposition
Motion 90
Elizabeth S.: MOTION: UPDATE THE TWELVE-STEP COMPANION GUIDE TABLE OF CONTENTS BY INSERTING A NEW SECTION C AND RELETTERING REMAINING PART AS FOLLOWS:
TABLE OF CONTENTS
[Existing unchanged Parts and Sections]
PART C: CONNECTION
The Miracle of C.A.
A Higher Power of Our Own Understanding: Questions of God, Belief and Faith Sponsorship
To the Inmate and Those in Treatment
Staying Connected With C.A.: Keep Coming Back
Life With an Addict or an Alcoholic: Our Family Experience
PART D: APPENDICES
[Existing Unchanged Appendices]
Seconded
Trevor S.: Any debate?
Elizabeth S.: I would like to share the history of the 12 step companion guide, it is a labor of collective love. It has been in works for the past few years, it has included many writings and formatting through the years. It’s writing is to represent it’s true representation of our fellowship. There has not been a comprehensive guide for the steps in a long time. The guide is designed to be used in conjunction with the Big Book. We have a responsibility to carry the message of Cocaine Anonymous whether in a prison cell, detox or anywhere else. It can be used to help others. The guide also addresses the needs of established CA members. As CA continues to expand and evolve, the guide is meant to enhance our lives. If this guide is approved, we will hope to complete this project in 2022. As Tradition 5 states, we want to continue to carry this message to the addict who still suffers. These are informational and supportive.
Kevin M.: I am for the motion, when the trustees received the companion guide, they had to review it and ask does this reflect the teachings of Cocaine Anonymous? Further, we had to look at what the concept
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approved was and did it reflect it. It took us several times to review. We could not as a board not add the sections, because it was a workbook. We have to make sure that the concept that is portrayed is well and it is. We invited them to come back to the conference and make their case which they are doing. There have been some changes since 1939 with the Big Book. Do you want to increase the scope of the book you already have?
Jason L.: I speak against this motion, when the book was first approved, it was a companion guide and lots of questions were asked to make sure it wasn’t a basic text and not replace the Big Book. The project was a step working guide. When we received this book to review, the Board of Trustees believed it was beyond the scope. We returned the book and they made revisions, and it’s available on kindle. The LCF wanted to include these sections and let us know the scope of the book has changed. It does go beyond the scope of the book, there are more chapters. If approved it will be beyond the scope of the book. As far as the actual content is concerned, I’m not adverse to the content. It has been moved to another direction.
Dawn M.: I speak against this motion at this time. They’re adding something that hasn’t reached the members yet. I would like to understand how the fellowship feels about this content. It’s starting to change the format and content and it’s going to increase the cost concept. How many more pamphlets are we going to produce?
Wade S.: I speak against this motion at this time. I understand it is revised (table of contents). This fellowship just found out this is coming out. We haven’t had the ability to look at the contents yet. I would like to exercise a bit of restraint of pen and tongue.
Lucas S.: I speak in opposition of this motion at this time. I’d like to read the literature first.
Justin C.: I speak in favor, it is in a draft process. We were asked to bring this back, your approval tonight will give us permission to write more chapters. Your yes, doesn’t mean it’s not written, it just allows us to continue to write. It’s not ready to print.
Terry M.: I speak in favor of this motion. I have been involved in this project over the years, C.A. conference has approved the book approval process and we have followed all the steps to this process. WSBT wanted to review the content which took this project to where it is now. When the excerpts were presented with praise, a question was raised as to when would this book be available? The concept is to move forward to continue to work on it. It’s been reviewed many times and we’re looking for unity. The scope of the book never changed. It doesn’t call for the entire conference to reach it. It’s written in the spirit of love. Literature allows us to expand our reach. The sections are written by those it references. We have a responsibility to carry the message to the addict who still suffers. This has multiple committee leads. We want to finish these last chapters that have been written by members over time. We need approval to continue to write. There’s been a lot of work done. We want to move these chapters forward with the members who have put all their work into it. It also ties into our Quiet Peace book. It’s a well thought out product and I ask for your consideration in the magnitude that it took to write to move forward so that we can continue.
Point of Information: Tammy L.: I thought we had a time limit on debate?
Trevor S.: There has not been a limit on debate.
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Point of Order: Kevin M.: Can this be 5 minutes for debates?
Trevor S.: I’ve never heard that or enforced that.
Rose J.: I’m torn between, but I’m in favor of this motion. I think this is marvelous and will help our fellowship and if our trustees are going to look at it again, why can’t we move on this?
Sarah T.: I’m against this motion. My understanding is that the table of contents is changing. It’s going to be available and it’s ready to print, let’s see what the fellowship thinks of it. At the moment we can’t see the content. It should’ve been kept as a step guide.
Trevor S.: I would like one more in favor and then we can proceed to the vote. I need unanimous consent after this “in favor”. Zero objection.
Tom P.: I am in favor on the basis of principle. The motion is a concept. The WSBT did send the material back to the committee and asked them to get back to the concept and let the floor decide if this concept works and it does. This table of content makes it a better book.
Trevor S.: prepare to vote
Trevor S.: counted vote needed
Russell S.: I’m going to take a counted vote as well.
Motion passes with noted opposition.
Parliamentary Inquiry
Motion 91
Tammy L.: Motion: we limit the time to 3 minutes to each member for speaker
Seconded
Zach A.: Friendly Amendment to also have 5 for and 5 against.
Jason L.: They lost sound and need time to correct.
Russell S.: I understand that you’re understanding each other’s company, and now you’re going to call a break, this should not take priority – the motions should be called to business.
Trevor S.: I called a 10 minute break so that you could get your sound back.
Russell S.: asking to call the motion to adjourn
Motion 92
Jane B.: I make a motion to adjourn for the evening.
Point of Order: Ty S.: are we not still technically in a motion?
Trevor S.: A motion to adjourn takes precedence over all that. Any debate on the motion to adjourn.
Taylor F.: I’m against this motion as there isn’t a better time to meet in the morning.
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Trevor S.: Is there any objection to adjourning and coming back at 8am?
Trevor S.: the UK hub has lost sound and it violates their right to participate.
Trevor S.: See you all at 8am sharp.
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