Rodney D – Presented report
CLOSING REPORT C.A. WORLD SERVICE CONFERENCE 2018
Structure and Bylaws Committee
INTRODUCTION AND OPENING COMMENTS
Opening Comments
It was a great honor to be the chair of the S & B committee this conference. The excitement on S & B is through the roof. We have a great group of talented new members added to the mix. We will be switching to a new service for our monthly conference calls and look forward to getting more work done.
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| Rodney D | Chairman | rdavisrecoverystuff@gmail.com | 8163490351 | ||||||||||||||||||
| Clayton P | Co-Secretary | Clayboy7447@aol.com | 2163224316 | ||||||||||||||||||
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COMMITTEE WORK THAT RESULTED IN MOTIONS
None
REFERRALS THAT RESULTED IN MOTIONS
- S&B 2017-9/2018-2: To make the following changes to the WSM page 49 related to referrals.
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Casey S motioned.
a. Motion to strike the current language on page 49 of the World Service Manual and replace with new language.
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In-Conference Referral
An “In-Conference” referral is any referral received within 90 days prior to the Conference or that is handed in at the start of the Conference, prior to the announced cutoff time at the current WSC (usually the close of the second day’s Conference session or as the Conference Chairs announces). As a function of the WSC Conference Committee, the Committee members will enter all referrals on a master list for tracking purposes and then distribute them to the appropriate WSC committee for action. Each WSC Committee addresses its referrals as that Committee sees fit; however, the Committee is guided in this process by the Standing Rules for the C.A. World Service Conference. With each referral, the Conference Committee may: bring a motion to the Conference floor for approval; keep the referral in Committee for further work or research; refer the referral to another WSC Committee or service board, or decide that the referral is not currently in the best interest of C.A. to pursue at that present time and therefore no action is to be taken. If there is a decision to take no action, the WSC Committee must give a detailed reasoned response in the referral. It is important that each Committee respond to each referral each year. In-Conference referrals also include referrals from a previous Conference by one other WSC Committee or service board to the WSC Committee who will be then asked to consider the referral for action and response.
Post Conference Referral
A referral that is handed in at the Conference, post the “cutoff time” mentioned above and prior to the close of the Conference is considered a “Post-Conference” referral. Again as a function of the WSC Conference Committee, these referrals are collected, logged to a master list for tracking purposes and then distributed to the appropriate WSC Committee Chairs as soon as practicable following the Conference. These referrals are addressed by the appropriate WSC Committee in much the same fashion as an “In-Conference” referral; however, any resulting action(s) will take place at the subsequent WSC. All World Service Conference Committees are encouraged to work throughout the year on their “Post Conference” referrals so that they are free to address and respond to all new “In-Conference” referrals, plus any “Pre-Conference” referrals at the Conference the following year.
Pre-Conference Referral
A “Pre-Conference” referral is any referral submitted following the close of the WSC, but prior to 90 days before the next WSC. These referrals are generally received by the WSC Conference Committee throughout the year. These referrals are logged by the WSC Conference Committee on a master list and then distributed to the appropriate Conference Committees. The master list is prepared by the WSC Conference Committee Chair for tracking purposes and distribution to all Conference attendees.
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Special Note: All Conference referrals are now submitted on-line through the applicable on-line Conference portal.
Seconded
Trevor S – Asked for unanimous consent to not read into the mic. Passed.
Joetta K – We defer to the Conference Committee.
Jay F – No comment at this time.
Jason L – This went out in the SR14 mailing. There is no explanation for this change, why such a major change is being done. What is the purpose?
Jay F – This was an S&B referral from last year. Last year it was 14 motions, the floor got frustrated and it was pulled. This time we are doing it in one big motion.
Kevin M – The old language dealt with paper referrals. This updates it to deal with electronic referrals. This is the process we are currently doing.
Trevor S – Yes, this matches what we are currently doing now.
Wade S – Would you accept a friendly amendment on the sentence In Conference Referral ‘with each referral, the Conference may bring a motion…. Friendly amend to read – With each referral,
the Committee the referral is addressed to may: bring a motion to the Conference floor for approval; keep the referral in Committee for further work or research; refer the referral to another WSC Committee or service board, . . . .
Friendly amendment accepted. Amended wording is in italics. Amended motion now reads as In-Conference Referral
An “In-Conference” referral is any referral received within 90 days prior to the Conference or that is handed in at the start of the Conference, prior to the announced cutoff time at the current WSC (usually the close of the second day’s Conference session or as the Conference Chairs announces). As a function of the WSC Conference Committee, the Committee members will enter all referrals on a master list for tracking purposes and then distribute them to the appropriate WSC committee for action. Each WSC Committee addresses its referrals as that Committee sees fit; however, the Committee is guided in this process by the Standing Rules for the C.A. World Service Conference. With each referral, the Committee the referral is addressed to may: bring a motion to the Conference floor for approval; keep the referral in Committee for further work or research; refer the referral to another WSC Committee or service board, or decide that the referral is not currently in the best interest of C.A. to pursue at that present time and therefore no action is to be taken. If there is a decision to take no action, the WSC Committee must give a detailed reasoned response in the referral. It is important that each Committee respond to each referral each year. In-Conference referrals also include referrals from a previous Conference by one other WSC Committee or service board to the WSC Committee who will be then asked to consider the referral for action and response.
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Post Conference Referral
A referral that is handed in at the Conference, post the “cutoff time” mentioned above and prior to the close of the Conference is considered a “Post-Conference” referral. Again as a function of the WSC Conference Committee, these referrals are collected, logged to a master list for tracking purposes and then distributed to the appropriate WSC Committee Chairs as soon as practicable following the Conference. These referrals are addressed by the appropriate WSC Committee in much the same fashion as an “In-Conference” referral; however, any resulting action(s) will take place at the subsequent WSC. All World Service Conference Committees are encouraged to work throughout the year on their “Post Conference” referrals so that they are free to address and respond to all new “In-Conference” referrals, plus any “Pre-Conference” referrals at the Conference the following year.
Pre-Conference Referral
A “Pre-Conference” referral is any referral submitted following the close of the WSC, but prior to 90 days before the next WSC. These referrals are generally received by the WSC Conference Committee throughout the year. These referrals are logged by the WSC Conference Committee on a master list and then distributed to the appropriate Conference Committees. The master list is prepared by the WSC Conference Committee Chair for tracking purposes and distribution to all Conference attendees.
Special Note: All Conference referrals are now submitted on-line through the applicable on-line Conference portal.
Jason L – Is it the case that referrals can only be made online, no more paper? Trevor S – Yes.
Trevor S – Seeing no further debate, please prepare to vote.
Clicker vote 41 – 150 for, 1 against, passed with substantial unanimity.
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- S&B 2018-1: Our current language for electing conference committee chairperson is “Every Committee should nominate and select its own officers each year prior to presenting its motion(s) on the Conference floor.” This is vague and open to interpretation. Most committees do elections at the end of the breakout session, some do it at the beginning. I always thought the intent was to announce the slate, in the committee’s closing remarks, that will operate through the following conference. I believe that this process should be a little more specific in order to ensure that all our WSC committees operate the same way. Wording like: “Every Committee should nominate and select its own officers each year at the end of their breakout session and present them to the fellowship during its final report on the Conference floor.”
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Every Committee should nominate and select its own officers each year prior to presenting its motion(s) on the Conference floor.
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Lucas S —
a. Motion on page 42 of the World Service manual under WSC COMMITTEE OFFICERS DUTIES, QUALIFICATIONS & SELECTION
Every Committee should nominate and select its owntheir own officers each year at conference prior to presentingsubmitting its motion(s)their closing reports to the conference floorcommittee.
Seconded
Trevor S – Does the committee wish to debate their motion?
Lucas S – No
Stu E – This year at Conference, the PI Committee incurred a non-delegate chairperson expense. Then, said non-delegate chairperson, that person left this Conference and went home early after the PI Committee officers were elected. Offer a friendly amendment to have this start when the Conference ends.
Trevor S – This is out of order because it already works that way.
Stu E – That is not how they are currently do things
Trevor S – Are you challenging my ruling?
Rodney D – We do not accept this friendly amend
Kevin M – Parliamentary Inquiry – Did you just rule that all committee elections take effect at the end of Conference?
Trevor S – All motions made take effect at end of Conference?
Kevin M – Does that include elections?
Trevor S – All motions take effect at end of Conference
Kevin M – PI always votes in their officers at the start of Conference.
Trevor S – We don’t dictate when elections need to happen in each committee.
Jason L – Is there some way we can revise this motion so that what happened with the other example doesn’t happen again. Once that person was no longer the chairperson, they left and the expense was already paid out. If elections are supposed to take place at end of Conference, then something needs to be in place to state that.
Rodney D – This motion was in response to a different issue. I don’t know how we would re-craft it on the floor. I understand the issue Stu brought up. We would really like a referral on that issue.
Rose J – The process that we elect our chair people either before we start business or at the end. That is not the problem. We have no control over someone’s choice/motive for doing this. I think this instance is rare.
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Jon H – The way this is submitted, I don’t like. Against motion. Even if we look at the referral, it talks about other issues. In the motion, it says prior to submitting their closing reports. That could be vague.
Stuart J – It is my understanding that I would be chair elect when the gavel falls, the WSCPI guidelines states when to elect the officers for the conference, I know it was changed a few years ago, and we can change that line in it, in order for this manual to reflect the S&B suggestions.
Trevor S – It is up to the PI committee as to when that is instated. So, to me you are the chair.
Stuart J – Can we bring this back as new business?
Trevor S – Yes, you may
Stuart J – Does that work?
Stu E – I was the writer of this referral, this was my intent, to have the committees do their election after the Conference. This year is the extreme case of a non-delegate chairperson incurring expenses. And an obvious selfish act. These motions that we make in our final closing reports take effect after the gavel.
Michael C – I speak in favor, during this conference, I heard there was some bad blood and hurt feelings and we were given a referral so that everyone can have the same rules and playing field, and not bring personalities into this. That’s why this was crafted, this is our response. I speak in favor.
Natalie L – I speak against, it contradicts, first term at committee’s direction. I don’t think that we should fault the next non-delegate to hinder who we bring up next to serve a term.
Henry A – I hear that this is to try to make the rules more uniform for everybody? Did anything really change?
Rodney D – Two things – Making it the same for every committee. And making it so it could happen before putting in closing reports before coming in to present report. We do not want to dictate exactly when to make the elections, just that it would happen during the Conference.
Zach A – I speak in favor, based on the fact to move towards making a more uniformed structure as to when positions are elected, regardless their autonomy, their motions still fall under the gavel rule on Sunday.
Maya B – Friendly amendment: @end of sentence
“to become effective after the gavel falls at end of session”
Rodney D – Let me ask for opinion before responding . . . . . .we accept amendment. Trevor S – Any objection?
Natalie L – Can you read the new motion in full with the amendment?
Trevor S – Reads amended motion without the deleted wording
a. Motion on page 42 of the World Service manual under WSC COMMITTEE OFFICERS DUTIES, QUALIFICATIONS & SELECTION
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“Every Committee should nominate and select their own officers each year at conference prior to submitting their closing reports to the conference committee to become effective after the gavel falls at end of session.”
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Nathan H – Motion to extend the floor until 2 am.
Seconded.
Kevin M – While it may have been implicit, he did not make the motion to suspend the rules which would have been implicit to make that motion.
Nathan H – I would like to make a motion to suspend the rules and extend the floor until 2 am.
Seconded.
Henry A – I do not know how, but I would like to solicit the Chair’s opinion on this. Trevor S – I would like to say it is very late…
Ricky W – I would like to speak against the motion to extend. We are not all from LA. I am half asleep here, anything I am voting on, my words aren’t working, let alone my brain. The business I’ve been sent here to do, I cannot, and to continue to do this is well out of order.
Kevin M – Doing this will waste valuable sleeping time instead of getting up and doing this work in the morning.
Tom P – I am not confident that we will complete this agenda by 2 am, and we will being doing impaired, make bad decisions, I speak against. We have a lot of work to do. I suggest we come back in the morning and do this in a responsible way.
Michael C – I speak against the motion to extend, we talked about this earlier. We were not kidding, there are four more motions in the S&B report and they’re good. I believe we can make better judgments tomorrow. To be prudent and I don’t have to make a point anymore by staying up.
Maria K – I speak in favor, I know that every year we have extended the floor on Saturday night, it wouldn’t feel like Conference if we didn’t.
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Shelby D – Call the question.
Seconded.
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Clicker 42 – for 137 // 14 against. Motion to call the question passes with substantial unanimity.
Trevor S – Prepare to vote on the original motion.
Clicker 43 – for 56 // 97 against, motion fails to suspend the rules and extend the floor until 2 am. Fails.
Trevor S – We are adjourned until 8 am. If you need to proxy your votes, we have Proxy Forms up here for you. Please see your Regional Trustee to have them signed.
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