CLOSING REPORT
C.A. WORLD SERVICE CONFERENCE 2006
FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT
INTRODUCTION AND OPENING COMMENTS
This year, the Finance Committee started our committee meeting with the Serenity Prayer and the reading of a portion of the 11th Concept. We found ourselves guided with the words from this concept because they speak to our duties as the members of the fellowship who must take on the hard task of handling the financial affairs of C.A. as a whole. “The main responsibility of this body is to see that we do not become money-crippled or go broke. This is the place where money and spirituality do have to mix, and in just the right proportion. Here we need hard-headed members with much financial experience. All should be realists, and a pessimist or two can be useful. The whole temper of today’s world is to spend more than it has, or may ever have. Many of us consequently are infected with this rosy philosophy. When a new and promising C.A. Service project moves into sight, we are apt to cry, “Never mind the money, let’s get at it.” This is when our budgeters are expected to say, “ Stop, look and listen.” This is the exact point where the “savers” come into a constructive and healthy collision with the
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“spenders”. The primary function of this committee, therefore, is to see that our Headquarters operation is always solvent and that it stays that way, in good times and bad. We have a great committee who is committed to working throughout the coming year on special projects and the continued success of C.A. finances.”
The finance committee was very busy this year adjusting the current year budget and preparing the 2007 – 2008 Budget. We also addressed your gracious referrals.
We have a great committee who is committed to working through- out the coming year on the continued success of CA finances.
Committee Members:
Chair: Brian M. Tenenbaum
Vice Chair: Dan Santa Maria
Secretary: Lori Penrose
WSO Treasurer: Tom Phelan
Trustee Representative: Earl Henderson
Idea People: Philip Lindsay
Jay Parker
Tom Svoboda
Jeffrey Ushry
Elizabeth Saldebar
COMMITTEE WORK THAT RESULTED IN MOTIONS
- MOTION: To amend the July1, 2006 to June 30, 2007 budget to increase the following two income line items:
#400407 Contribution Program an additional $8,875.00. #400406 Contribution 7th Tradition an additional $4,500.00. To amend the following expense line item:
#500547 Office Expense an additional $1,500.00 #904549 Printing an additional $1,000.00 To add the following expense line items:
#500590 -NADCP for $7,315.00.
#760000 Archives Committee $2,500.00.
#500554 Translations $1,000.00
Second
Dan Santa Maria – We work hard each year to project a budget. We were in a low spot and we budgeted conservitavely. This year we have done better with the doner program and the 7th tradition donations . It has allowed us to budget for some of these other line items..
Jackie Schickler- POINT OF INFORMATION , I understood we had an extra 50.000.00 in income over the past year and where is that reflected.
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Tom Phelan- That item is not in the 2006 07 budget or the 2007 08 budget.
Jackie Schickler – What is actually in prudent reserve.
Tom Phelan – PR is 50,000.00 , However ideal is 75,000.00 We are however working towards that
Ja Sh- Does that include the 80,000.00 from Houston.
Tom Phelan- yes
Ann Mosberglia- 7350.00 for the NDCAP . Is that kind of high?
Brian Tennenbaum- That includes a booth fee. Next year will be 4800.00
Nick Lynn- Can you explain what that Drug Court thing is?
Bobbie Harmon- Is where judges and lawyers and DA , and the recovery community is there. It is a opportunity for us to get the word out about CA. They are already out there doing something like this in the UK.
Jonas Kur-POINT OF INFORMATION How are you thinking this is spreading the message. You have only 1000.00 for translation.
Brain T.- We would like to give more to translations if our contr program does better.
John Bodkin- Speak in favor of the motion.
Jackie s _FA , consider amending number 5554 translations increase that and make it equal to 2500.00
Brian T- No sorry that would make a negative budger
Steve Banks- POINT OF INFORMATION have we not sent people before and have not had a booth before?
Brian Tennenbaum – Yes we have and they have gone on there own dime.
Yves White- POINT OF INFORMATION , I heard we should think as a business. How did you come to decide this was more important.?
Brian T- We did not think anything was more important.
Yves White- POINT OF INFORMATION ?
Elisabeth Saldebar- Requests are made from different Committee’s . That amount was requested for the drug court and that amount was requested for translations.
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Esther Bowens- POINT OF INFORMATION What is the difference between the NADCP and PI.
Bobbie Harmon- The NADCP was in my job description. The PI is in the media the PSA and all that stuff. In order for me to do what I am charged to do. We needed that money for me to do my job.
Bobbie Harmon- Yves asked about the booth. The booth that we used we borrowed.CA does not own one. If you saw the shape this thing was in. We wanted to look professional as possible.
CA world Service needs look World Services.
Cynthia Cronkhite. FA Revise line item 400406 – 6000.00 500554 –2500.00
Brian Tennenbaum , we can not accept that and we can not just print money.
Dan Santa Maria-
Cynthia Cronkhite – POINT OF ORDER Is it not appropriate to just respond with a yes or no.
Chair – Yes Cynthia you are correct.
Carl Warlick- Speak in favor of the motion. We saw this thing, and it did not look to good.
Willy Bailey- Call the question
Second.
Not debatable.
Motion passes with the 2/3rds majority.
POINT OF INFORMATION , Rick Delgado.
PI, Elizabeth saldaber
Chair you are out of order.
- MOTION: To amend the July1, 2006 to June 30, 2007 budget to increase the following two income line items:
#400407 Contribution Program an additional $8,875.00. #400406 Contribution 7th Tradition an additional $4,500.00. To amend the following expense line item:
#500547 Office Expense an additional $1,500.00 #904549 Printing an additional $1,000.00 To add the following expense line items:
#500590 -NADCP for $7,315.00.
#760000 Archives Committee $2,500.00.
#500554 Translations $1,000.00
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PI, Greg Barron, would it be in order at this time, to make a motion to divide out this motion.
Elizabeth Saldebar PI , Isn’t that PI out of order? Chair ,No PI are in order even after debate is closed.
Chair- The answer is that a , in order to make a motion to divide I would have to recogonize you and .
Motion Passes with Substantial Unanimity
Cynthia Cronkhite PI , If I were to make a motion to amend. Would that be order at this time?
Chair – Yes such a motion would be in order, however it would require a 2/3rds majority to pass.
CC , PI , but I could modify
CC. Motion to amend the motion just passed line item 400406 contributions 7th traditions additional 6000.00
Line item 500554 ,translations 2500.00
Second
Susan Buredau Object To Consideration
Chair – Out of order
Vice Chair , Explanation
Cynthia Cronkhite – I speak in favor of the motion. I believe there enough support to offset that expense.
Elizabeth Saldebar- I speak against the motion. You are adding our line item by 6000.00 and a budget 10000.00
Cynthia Cronkhite. Point of Order I believe the original motion is not 1000.00
Elizabeth Saldebar- I stand corrected but still speak against the motion. We are working with real numbers and we must be fiscally responsible and even 1,500.00 additional expense is too much to add to this budget. This request came from the WSO
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And every dollar received issues on a priority basis to carry the CA message when need is expressed. If more money is needed, the WSOB will request the WSBT to increase the amount of money that is needed for translations.
Tony Drake , POINT OF ORDER , the object to consideration was in order
Chair- Sorry no, because motion amend is an incidental main motion.
Power surge at 9.35 pm
Chair , Recess for 25 minutes.
Reconvene- 10.11
Cynthia Cronkhite, Motion to amend the motion just passed line item 400406 contributions 7th traditions additional 4500.00 6000.00
Line item 500554 , translations 1000.00 2500.00
Thank Kevin and HFC which is now down for the servers.
We will not have transcripts,
Dan Santa Maria- speaks against the motion to amend. We were fulfilling our obligation to pass an balanced budget , with a net 60.00. The donor program and 7th tradition contributions were exceeding our expectations. So that is why we could place these items on our budget. We are aware of the need for translations. We are very interested in doing that. We can not fully fund a venture until we know what that venture is. I would like to re read something from the 11th concept.
Stop, look, listen. The primary function is to see that our HQ is always solvent in good times and bad. We can not print money on the conference floor.
We did the best we could and I am not in favor of amending on the fly.
Tad Smith- Speak against the motion.
We are not prepared to transcribe and translation books as yet.
Michael Chiki- I speak against the motion. I do not believe that this is prudent .
Jackie Schickler- I speak in favor of athis motion. I would like to talk about our future. We have been concerned about our history. Lets look at the future. These areas need help to carry the message. They are asking to be part of our world wide fellowship. Lets plan and lets have some faith and be spiritually responsible.
Bruce Watson- I speak in favor of this motion. I feel compelled to speak in favor of this motion. We keep welcoming the regions outside the US. But with all due respect this is
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about saving lives with words. Words they can not understand with out translation. This is just the beginning. We must help this grow in NA and E
David Crosland- I speak in favor of the motion. It is the principal at stake here. It is a small amount of money it is less than 1% of the entire budget. We are asking for a small adjustment to a very large budget to show your support to the areas outside the US.
Greg Barron- Speak in favor of the motion
Vinny Martin- Speak in favor of the motion. It has been a huge issue to the new areas.
We cheer for SA , Sweden, Holland, Spain, etc…now lets really make them feel part of .
Bryan Seid- Point of Order I heard something that brings me to a question. I heard about
Chair That is a POINT OF INFORMATION
Bryan Seid , Is that correct that we can adjust the budget throughout the year Brian – No that is not correct
Barry Haynes
Call the question
Second
2/3rd majority to pass.
Motion passes with substantial Unanimity
Main Motion
Cynthia Cronkhite, Motion to amend the motion just passed line item 400406 contributions 7th traditions additional 4500.00 6000.00
Line item 500554 , translations 1000.00 2500.00
Second
Please I need counters.
68 for and 41 against.
Motion to amend fails.
Elizabeth Saldebar- Motion to amend the main motion which just passed to move money from archives committee to give to translations. #760000 Archives Committee $2,500.00. 1000.00
#500554 Translations $1,000.00 2500.00 in the spirit of unity.
Second.
Chair, this will require a 2/3rd majority to pass.
Jackie Schickler. I speak in favor of the motion. Thank you
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Trevor Scheible- I speak in favor of this motion. I would like to move forward. I love the idea with moving forward with archives . We can not move forward with out translations.
Michael Chiki- Point of Information is archives able to sustain itself on 1000.00 for the fiscal year.
Patrick Potter. No we will not.
Willy Bailey- I speak against this motion. The first amendment would be to adjust the budget on the fly and they could not do that. The archives chair, now says he can not do that job on the 1000.00
Tony Drake- Point of Information , is this the same 2500.00 that you gave to archives yesterday
Dan , yes it is 1500.00 of it.
Bryan Seid- Speak against the motion as written, however I do have some numbers here and line items. I think I could find a little from all areas.
Patrice Royal -Speaks against the motion. I am amazed at this in the last hour things have changed. There is a way and means to do this.
Bryan Bell- Speak in favor of this motion. I saw we were up in contributions. I can get a donation envelope and donate it to CA WSO and if we all did that , that would be exactly what we just spent one hour debating would be fixed.Thank God I was born American , cause if I was born here Chinese, I would not be able to come to CA .
Ernest Martin- I speak in favor of the motion. We have an opportunity here to make something historical and spiritual happen today. Archives did not have a budget the day before yesterday. If I was in another country and if you asked me if I wanted a T shirt or a book.. I take the book.
Howard Eley- Speak against the motion
I hear fear here. Do we trust the process that God is in Charge? Literature will not keep us sober.
Elizabeth Saldebar , Parlimentary Inquiry ,the finance committee would like to find a way to withdraw the amended motion
Chair , The answer is the maker of the motion may ask for unanimous consent from the floor.
Tony Drake- Point Of Order Our manual says something different from what you just stated.
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Chair – Tony is correct in that.
Chair is there any objection to this motion being withdrawn.
There are objections
We now move pursuant to our manual
A simple majority
All those in favor of the maker withdrawing the motion
Motion to withdraw is passed.
Elizabeth Saldebar , we were wrong. We should have addressed the Archives committee
PI Felicia Adams- Mr. Chair so what happens to the main motion that was amended and stricken etc
Motion number 1 passed , and that is really all that has happened.
Felicia Adams PI , would this be the place to make a motion to table.
Chair – No there is no motion on the floor
3. MOTION: To amend the July1, 2006 to June 30, 2007 budget to increase the following two income line items:
#400407 Contribution Program an additional $8,875.00. #400406 Contribution 7th Tradition an additional $4,500.00. To amend the following expense line item:
#500547 Office Expense an additional $1,500.00 #904549 Printing an additional $1,000.00 To add the following expense line items:
#500590 -NADCP for $7,315.00.
#760000 Archives Committee $2,500.00.
#500554 Translations $1,500.00
2. MOTION : To accept the proposed CAWSO budget to be in effect from July 1, 2007 to June 30, 2008
Second
Tom Phelan – It was a good year last year. We do not know if this is trend or just a good year. We need some time to see more.
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I can not rely on these increased incomes.
We have increased the budget and though budget is balanced we have made some assumptions regarding 7th tradition contributions.
Greg Barron- POINT OF INFORMATION I did not see translations in next years 08 budget.
Tom Phelen , there is 1500.00 allowed for translations .
John Bodkin- Speak in favor of the motion. I believe it is forward moving and thinking.
Bryan Seid- POINT OF INFORMATION in the 2007 budget under NADCP , Why is it 2000.00 less
Tom Phelen – No booth.
Ann Mosberglia- Will archives get 2000.00 per year.
Tom Phelen- That is what they requested.
Michael Chiki – speak in favor of the motion.
Sandy Pascal – Speaks against the motion . This budget has not been passed and we are not taking money away.
David Oakland- POINT OF ORDER are we debating the budget.
Chair – Yes
Willey Bailey
Call the question
Second
2/3rd not debatable.
Motion passes with minor opposition
- MOTION : To accept the proposed CAWSO budget to be in effect from July 1, 2007 to June 30, 2008
Second
Motion passes with minor opposition.
REFERRALS THAT RESULTED IN MOTIONS
Referral # 4872: Please revisit the subject of Special Donations in light of the attached letter from WSBT to CA UK.
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WORLD SERVICE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
c/o CAWSO
3740 Overland Ave., Suite C
Los Angeles, CA 90034
USA
June 1, 2004
United Kingdom Area – Cocaine Anonymous
PO Box 46920
London E2 9WF
Attn: David C., Area Chair
Re: Contribution Earmarked for European Development
Dear David:
On behalf of the entire Cocaine Anonymous fellowship, we would like to very much thank the United Kingdom Area for its generous contribution of 1000 pounds which was earmarked for development of our fellowship in Europe. We also want to again acknowledge and thank the UK Area for the wonderful contribution of a large portion of the CA UK Convention proceeds from earlier this spring.
Please share with the UK Area just how much the WSBT and WSO truly appreciate the interest and financial support of the development of CA in Europe. We applaud your efforts in every sense and encourage further and future participation financially and by outreach to developing CA countries and fellowships. We will all embrace the day that CA is alive and thriving in much of Europe and beyond as a result of these efforts and funds.
After careful review, discussion and prayer, however, the World Service Board of Trustees has decided that the 1000 pound contribution of the funds by the UK Area which was earmarked for European development cannot be accepted. We, unfortunately, cannot find any way to have the funds taken into the general accounts of the WSO and then segregated for this specified use. The reasoning is many-fold: (1) if the WSO were to accept these funds as earmarked, then other individuals, groups, districts, or areas might start segregating or earmarking their respective donations – we would be hard pressed to draw a line of where to allow earmarking or not; (2) if earmarked funds were to be accepted, this practice might then lead to diminished un-earmarked funds to the point that there would not be sufficient general un-earmarked funds within which to operate; (3) areas or districts which were perhaps better off would be inclined to send even more earmarked funds in under the guise perhaps of attempting to gain “clout” in the
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affairs of the fellowship; and (4) there is and might remain some uncertainty of what constituted “European development or Trustee travel” and possible disagreement of how and when the funds might be able to be withdrawn and by whom – this uncertainty invites continued controversy at many levels.
We truly appreciate the thoughtful and generous contribution from both your Area and one other area in the Atlantic South, both of which were earmarked for future development or trustee travel. We also really regret not being able to accept them because, frankly, we could use the money. We want you to know that we painstakingly discussed many alternate solutions to find a way to use and earmark the funds; however, each remained problematic. We again want to express that our decision is in no way a veto or judgment against this important effort. Rather, while we fully support the growth of CA in Europe and welcome and honor the UK Area’s financial backing of this growth, we just cannot find a way to make the contribution work within the constraints of our structure and applicable traditions. We also wish to point out that once the funds are received by the United Kingdom Area after their return, the United Kingdom Area is able to use those funds as it deems proper. These funds could be used for development or travel or for any other activity, keeping in mind Tradition Four which states that “Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or CA as a whole.” It would be perfectly acceptable for the UK Area to pay for their trustee to travel to support the European meetings out of these funds if that is their group conscience and it were managed by the UK Area.
When we were faced with this novel question we referenced past writings within our CA fellowship and in the AA 12 Steps and 12 Traditions. Under the discussion of Tradition Seven is a story of how the trustees had to return $10,000 which had been left to AA in a woman’s will. While the issues here are slightly different, the concerns, collective wisdom, and lessons expressed therein are of guidance. The 12 by 12 warned that accepting the funds from the woman’s estate might set up a disastrous chain reaction; that having additional funds might tempt the trustees to run things without reference to AA as a whole; that having a fatter treasury might tempt the trustees to invent schemes to do good with such funds and so divert AA from its primary purpose; and when that happened the fellowship’s confidence would be shaken, the board would be isolated and would likely fall under heavy attack.
There is simply no way we can find to accept these earmarked funds while being mindful of these past lessons and the reasons listed above. Accordingly, we return under separate transmittal the entire donation and again want to thank your Area and fellowship for the generous outpouring of support and love.
We are most happy to discuss this matter further with any members of the CA United Kingdom fellowship either as a group or individually.
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In love and service,
The World Service Board of Trustees
MOTION : Under the “Financial Guidelines for Groups, Districts and Areas of Cocaine Anonymous” delete the last paragraph on page 4, detailed as follows:
Special Donations – By group conscience, groups can also participate in submitting funds to special projects that are requesting funds from their District, Area or World Services. Groups can decide, by group conscience, if they want to donate to “special causes” in CA. A special cause could be another meeting that needs literature, a fundraiser at the district/Area, or event World Service special project, such as the H&I video. The information about the project should be spelled out carefully to the members of the groups before a vote is taken.
Second
Elizabeth Saldebar – Speaks to the motion. We have a lot of wise people who have gone before us. Tradition 7 reading. *** insert*** Concept 11 ** insert language.
The suggestion really is to send all money to the office to allow us to send it where it is needed most.
David Booth- Point of Information after much discussion I am very confused. Help me understand the difference between earmarked funds and special donations
ES- There is a difference of 7th tradition money being used for budgeted activities. * example of Hurricane Katrina. It needs to go to a general fund.
Scott Keavney – speak in favor of this motion. Earmarking has caused us a lot of problems in Unity of our area.
Greg Barron- Point of Information , By removing this paragraph , that in no way would hinder any area from doing anything such as H and I or Pot luck .
Howard Eley – Point of Information does this mean we could send money from district to district
Earl – It does not obstruct that.
David Crosland- How does this affect the collection of H and I money etc.
Earl Henderson- I can not speak to that please see H and I
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Barry Haynes – Speak in favor of the motion.
Stacey Keyes-Weston – speaks in favor of the motion. However, in striking the information here is not replacing telling the group to not save your prudent reserve for your upcoming convention, etc. in regard to earmarking funds. It doesn’t give the group any place to go with their prudent reserve. I think there were some revisions to the language.
Bill Burmeier – Point of Information – what is the difference between earmarking and fundraising.
Earl Henderson – earmarking – I already have the money and I’m sending with strings attached. Fundraising, I am going to go and raise money for a specific purpose. We want to avoid receiving money that would specifically fund some pet project.
Stacey Keyes-Weston – Friendly amendment – in striking the motion that we refer to the maintaining a prudent reserve by holding on to fund special events.
Earl Henderson – No.
Susan Bredau – Point of Information – didn’t we pass a motion today making the WSO and the Treasurer handling 25% of memorabilia and isn’t that money to be earmarked?
Earl Henderson – that is a fundraiser going into a particular account. It’s just allocating and following good accounting procedures. They want to do a certain percentage to a certain account – i.e. Convention in 2007. Just tracking the income.
Ethel Thomas – Does this have anything to do with a prudent reserve?
Chair – no
Willie Bailey – call to question.
Second.
Chair – 2/3 majority is needed to pass this motion
Motion passes with substantial unanimity.
MOTION: Under the “Financial Guidelines for Groups, Districts and Areas of Cocaine Anonymous” delete the last paragraph on page 4, detailed as follows:
Special Donations – By group conscience, groups can also participate in submitting funds to special projects that are requesting funds from their District, Area or World Services. Groups can decide, by group conscience, if they want to donate to “special causes” in CA. A special cause could be another meeting that needs literature, a fundraiser at the district/Area, or event World Service special project, such as the H&I
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video. The information about the project should be spelled out carefully to the members of the groups before a vote is taken.
Motion clearly passes with substantial unanimity.
REFERRALS OR ITEMS TABLED UNTIL NEXT YEAR; AND ITEMS THE COMMITTEE WILL CONTINUE WORKING ON THROUGH THE YEAR
Referral # 3468: The concept of a C.A. (special gift) envelop.
Referral # 4429: A request for guidelines for fundraising. Helpful hints on what is considered not a tradition violation. Examples of what can be used to solicit donations (if any).
Referral #4491: That a generic incorporation package be developed for distribution to the fellowship.
REFERRALS OR ITEMS REFERRED TO OTHER COMMITTEES; WORLD SERVICE OFFICE, OR BOARD OF TRUSTEES
NONE
REFERRALS THAT DID NOT RESULT IN MOTIONS
Referral # 4847: Please explore the fundraising possibilities of the following formula; $1.00 donation per CA meeting per week equal $ 104,000.00 per year (based on 2000 meetings) in donations to CAWS.
We believe in the spirit of this referral and we will point people towards the contribution program, Financial Guidelines 70/30 split, and talk about the “one is not enough flyer” and the WSO Treasurer will write an article for the Newsgram addressing Tradition 7.
NEW COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AS OF THIS CONFERENCE
Chair: Dan Santa Maria
Vice-Chair: Philip Lindsay
Secretary: Lori Penrose
CLOSING COMMENTS
As I am sure you all know by now, the CAWS Contribution program is up and running or should we say jogging. Contribution forms are lurking on every table in the hotel.
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The Contribution Program was designed to support the World Service Office in helping them to achieve our primary purpose of reaching out to carry the message. Here are some examples of how your contributions support the World Service Office in fulfilling it’s obligations;
- Off setting the cost of sending out H&I books and literature to inmates.
- Shipping starter kits through out the World
- Allowing our trusted servants to attend events such as the NADCP (National Association of Drug Court Professionals)
And for those of you that enjoy the World Service Convention, wouldn’t it be nice to make it more affordable for the newcomer to attend?
And what about the “people power” it takes to perform all these functions and keep our office running at the high efficiency level we have come to expect.
So, at this time if you haven’t already, we ask you to personally to sign up for this program to show support to CAWSO and be an example to your area. We continue our challenge to your regions to see who can sign up the most contribution to this program. Please remember that $5.00 or $10.00 can change the financial outlook of our fellowship. If 300 people sign up at $10.00 a month, we would increase the ability CAWSO to carry the message by $36,000.00 per year. The members of the Finance Committee have fully participated in the contribution program because we put our money where our mouth is – and we have big mouths! We would like to see the contribution flyer on the table of every CA meeting in the World!
Thank you all for allowing us to continue our sobriety by being of service to you.
Respectfully Submitted:
Brian M. Tennenbaum_
Personal statement regarding Brian’s experience over the years on the Finance Committee. I was taught to live in the solution. The contribution program, helps us fund our projects. There are plenty of members who do not understand this . Please go to your areas and appeal to them to donate to the contribution program. Special thank you to Heidi J and Elizabeth S. I could not have done it with out them.
Chair – I have special notice for a motion to rescind.
Questions- Yves White, Do you intend to have a French copy of the Donor Program?
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John Bodkin- Yes
Bryan Bell- For those of us who can not do the contribution program for one reason or another. If we all gave 10.00 in the box , would it help?
Brian Tennebaum- It all helps
Mona Ibrahim- You based the income on merchandise and shipping is 15% of sales. Are you including in your budget a total of 40,000.00 and the fact that cases of books include shipping charges. But excluded from the shipping charges and then a 5% addition to walk in orders. And then shipping alone is 15% of sales So when you are assuming the budget how do you base the 15% ?
Tom Phelen- These are just assumptions.
That is a detailed question and I would be happy to go over this with you.
Mona Ibrahim- I just want to know, this is very important as we are a non profit co.
Bryan Seid – Motion to suspend the rules to hear a motion not on the agenda. Second
Parliamentary Inquiry-I believe all of this is out of order.
Vice Chair, we are not closed until I hit the gavel. It is the chairs
Quorum Call
110 votes
Motion to suspend rules in order to hearan item not on the agenda.
Motion to extend the time to hear question for the finance committee any notifications from the floor that are necessary for this evenings session.
Second
Motion passes
Questions for Finance Committee
Jason Schmidt- That last motion we passed in order for me to understand that. Does that mean and H and I can money would go to the general fund. Brian Tennenbaum- Yes
Bobbie Harmon- Please tell me the extra 1500.00 under office expense what is that for?
Brian Tennenbaum- For new Technology and office items.
Vinnie Martin- We have a fund raiser we send it to WSO , what would you do with it. Earl Henderson -We would send it back to you
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Nick Alexander, could an area sign up the contribution program Brian Tennenbaum- We would have to look into that.
Paul Bach- Can and area or districts gather funds and send them to another area or region,, say to start there own translation project.
Earl Henderson – Yes they are antonymous
Russell – So my areas money for H and I is now going to go to general fund or be sent back to me?
Earl Henderson – We will take it only as a 7th tradition donation.
Announcements from the floor
None.
Agenda
Adjourned 12.16 am
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