COCAINE ANONYMOUS WORLD SERVICE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
DECEMBER 2, 2012
FINAL RECORD OF BOARD MEETING
Since this report is a confidential C.A. document for members only, it may contain members’ full names. This usage to facilitate communication within the fellowship was approved by the 1990 World Service Conference. Such confidential use does not, of course, violate in any way our Tradition on anonymity in public communications media (press, radio, TV, etc).
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AGENDA with notes WSBT Quarterly Meeting, Los Angeles, CA
Nov 30th thru Dec 2nd, 2012
Terry ~ Welcome its 7.15pm on Friday 30th November. We are going off record for personal sharing.
- Personal sharing (no more than 10 minutes each)
Terry ~ we are back online after personal sharing. Its 8.31pm
- Moment of silence and Serenity Prayer
- Roll call
Ira Land – WST
Kathy Jo Rangno – WSOT
Rob Wellhauser – TAL
Brian Tenenbaum – MWRT
Kenny Williams – ASRT
Duane Miller – PSRT
Jay Parker – SWRT
Yves White – ANRT
Russell Sedman – ERT/WSBT
Vice Chair
Terry Marsden – PNRT/ WSBT Chair
- Reading of the 12 Traditions
Rob reads the 12 Traditions
- Read “long form” and discuss Tradition 9 – (Limit discussion)
Yves reads Trad 9
- Read and discuss Concept 9 (Limit discussion)
Ira reads Concept 9
- Chair’s opening remarks:
- Review of WSBT agenda ~ Done
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- Attention to recording background noise, please announce yourself to assist transcriber. ~ Done
- Election of WSBT Secretary
Rob W is nominated and seconded
Yves is nominated and seconded
Rob W is elected as WSBT Secretary
- Election of WSBT Assistant Secretary
Yves is elected as WSBT Assistant secretary
- WSBT officer reports (discussion on reports previously submitted for review):
- Chair (Terry)
- Vice-Chair (Russell)
- Secretary (Russell)
Russell ~ Motion to approve WSBT Officer Reports
Brian ~ Second
Motion Passes
- Trustee reports (discussion on reports previously submitted for review):
- Atlantic North Regional Trustee (Yves )
- Atlantic South Regional Trustee (Kenny)
- Midwest Regional Trustee (Brian)
- Pacific North Regional Trustee (Terry)
- Pacific South Regional Trustee (Duane)
- Southwest Regional Trustee (Jay)
- European Regional Trustee (Russell)
- Trustee At Large (Rob)
- World Service Office Trustee Report (KJ)
- World Service Trustee Report (Ira)
Kenny ~ Motion to approve Trustee reports as listed above
Yves ~ Second
Motion Passes
- WSBT Subcommittee reports – lead member listed first (discussion on reports previously submitted for review):
- Finance (KJ)
- International Structure and Development (Russell)
- Legal (Duane)
- Long Term Planning (Rob, all)
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- NewsGram (Terry)
- Orientation (Russell)
- Trustee Election (Kenny)
- Trustee Negotiating (Ira, Terry, Russell, Brian)
- Trustee Outreach (Yves)
- World Service Conference (Brian)
Brian ~ Motion to approve WSBT Subcommittee reports as above Rob ~ Second
Motion Passes
- Trustee Conference Committee reports (discussion on reports previously submitted for review): approved
- Archives (Russell – Duane 2nd)
- Conference (Terry – Ira 2nd)
- Convention (Duane – Brian 2nd)
- CAWS 2013 (Kenny)
- CAWS 2014 (Duane)
- CAWS 2015 (KJ)
- CAWS 2016 (Brian)
- Finance (Brian – Jay 2nd)
- Hospitals & Institutions (Jay – Kenny 2nd)
- IT (Kenny – Yves 2nd)
- Literature, Chips & Format (Rob – KJ 2nd)
- Public Information (Ira – Russell 2nd)
- Structure & Bylaws (Yves – Rob 2nd)
- Unity (KJ – Terry 2nd)
Russell ~ Motion to approve Trustee Conference Committee reports as above but excluding CAWS2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Brian ~ Second
Motion passes
Kenny ~ Motion to approve CAWS2013 report
Yves ~ second
Motion Passes
Duane ~ Motion to approve CAWS2014 report
Ira ~ Second
Motion passes
KJ ~ Motion to approve CAWS2015
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Ira ~ second
Motion passes
Brian ~ Motion to approve CAWS2016 report
KJ ~ Second
Motion passes
1) CAWS Convention updates:
- CAWS 2013 (Kenny)
Kenny ~ [reads report]
Rob ~ Can we have minutes and financials posted to us as per WSCCC Guidelines
Kenny ~ Communication is an issue
Russell ~ Can we support Kenny, he needs to be at all steering/general committee meetings. Ask Linda to cc Kenny on all communication back to the committee(s) so he has a chance to stay on top of all activities
- CAWS 2014 (Duane)
Duane ~ [reads report]
Rob ~ Are the committee gearing up for a presentation at the banquet at CAWS2013
Duane ~ Yes…on another note, the committee are using the acronym ‘CAWSC’ not ‘CAWS’.
Russell ~ Can we ask the committee ‘in the spirit of unity we continue to use CAWS as our title and cease using CAWSC’
- CAWS 2015 (KJ)
KJ ~ [reads report] Chair selection in process, hotels are being explored.
- CAWS 2016 (Brian) Brian ~ [reads report]
Terry ~ thanks all, we have a lot of items to discuss tomorrow. Lets meet back in here at 8am tomorrow morning. Its 12.15am now lets rap
Rob ~ motion to adjourn
Jay ~ second
Motion passes
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PLACE MARKER – BUSINESS ITEMS
MARKER 2006.02.20 Copyright and trademark protection (Ira) – Richard L will ask for legal response to item 2 and whether it covers the words Hope, Faith and Courage as stand alone trademarks.
- To remain on agenda for quarterly review
- Next Review – Principle register – September 4, 2020
| Service Marks | Where Protected |
| We’re Here and We’re Free | USA, Canada, and EU |
| Cocaine Anonymous name | USA, Canada, EU |
| C.A. | USA, Canada |
| C.A. logo | USA, Canada, EU(new) |
The following marks have been registered in Canada:
1. Trademark: Renewal Date:
WE’RE HERE AND WE’RE FREE: September 30th 2027
2. Trademark: Renewal Date:
CA HOPE FAITH COURAGE & Design: August 9, 2021
3. Trademark: Renewal Date:
COCAINE ANONYMOUS: December 13, 2021
4. Trademark: Renewal Date:
C.A. June 12, 2022
Ira ~ its all new to me and I’m awaiting Bob to get back to us.
Russell ~ Lets add a marker item regarding financial demands around our copyright obligations.
MARKER 2006.08.13 Signature of annual corporate documents (All)
To be completed @ at fall Quarterly
MARKER 2009.05.09 Financial status CAWS Inc. – (KJ & Ira)
KJ ~ all is good, financial reports were sent out prior to this quarterly
MARKER NADCP – (Rob)
Rob ~ All is on track, I need to follow up with WSO to make travel arrangements. Yves, Linda and myself are attending. July 15-17th in Washington DC.
MARKER TEC – (Kenny)
Kenny ~ I ask we consider bringing forward our slate resumes.
Russell ~ Its difficult to get resumes submitted for a dead slate. I’ll keep trying.
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Jay ~ Sent the slate for the Southwest.
MARKER 2009.12.03 Review of On-Line Copyright Issues (Kenny)
There are over 120 social networking sites that are up. It will be difficult for us to police. We do not have the resources to keep them from using our name and/or logo. FB is straightforward to deal with. Twitter are more difficult
OLD BUSINESS
2011.03.01 – European fulfillment facility – (Russell)
Russell ~ As per the B2B, lets move forward with the new guys involved. We’re going to have a call in a few weeks to discuss presenting our findings and options
2011.12.01 – Minutes / Transcription / State Requirements and Responsibilities to the Fellowship (Brian)
Brian ~ We could do with raising awareness with regards seeking feedback from the fellowship. Russell ~ We will still be recording the conference and WSBT quarterly meetings, so lets not think we can change this without the conference making the decision.
KJ ~Historically it has cost $1200 to record conference and $2400 to pay for transcribe the recordings.
2012.07.03 – LCF access to correspondence to the fellowship
Russell ~ LCF asked that we provide all past correspondence to/from the fellowship/wsbt. It’s a very long and resource demanding workload. The info is already out with the fellowship as all correspondence is pasted into our reports and/or minutes.
Rob ~ I’ll speak with LCF and ask what it is they specifically require.
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CORRESPONDENCE/ RESPONSES FROM/TO THE FELLOWSHIP:
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by () on Monday, October 29, 2012 at 16:18:22 ————————————————————————— Name: Ian Email: ironmountain04@yahoo.com City: New Smyrna Beach StateProvince: FL.. AreaRegion: Volusia Subject: Sandy Springs Message: Complaint that a man named dante’ is not carrying the C.A. msg., but telling cocaine addicts that they are not welcome there & the cocaine anonamous book or the msg. that the C.A. book carrys, is welcome at the Sandy Springs Georgia Cociane Anonamous mtg. I had a chance ti see the groups in Los Angeles where CA started & dante & his followers preach that the real cocaine addict and sufferer are not welcome at a mtg. you guys sell chips to, at let use the C.A. name. I explained all this to Linda, at the world service office, over the phone.
Rob (lead)
IN-CONFERENCE REFERRALS TO BE ADDRESSED:
- Referral #5817
- Our Area bylaws conflict with 12 Concepts and 12 Traditions. How can we as an Area conduct our business without violating 12 Concepts and 12 Traditions if our Area Service Board does not want to recognize this problem and continuously state that our bylaws supercede the 12 Concepts and 12 Traditions. Some of us understand that any Area bylaws should be formed under 12 Concepts and 12 Traditions and bylaws should not conflict with such, as our ASB goes against this.
Duane (lead), Ira, Russell
- Referral #6645
- Can guidelines/questions be crafted for the Trustees to use at the Regional caucuses when filling the Regional slate? Example: Do you serve on your Committee throughout the year? Do you write quarterly reports to your Trustee? Do you meet all requirements?
Kenny, Terry, Rob
- Referral # 6860
- What is the reasoning be in C.A. policy of displaying, distributing or selling only WSC approved literature. Could a group use other A.A. literature?
Yves, Duane, Brian
- Referral #7065 DONE
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- From Jean Marc Lemieux submitted by Valerie Cote Response re-sent at August Quarterly
POST-CONFERENCE REFERRALS TO BE ADDRESSED:
Referral #7113
That the Trustees consider, in the full spirit of the right of rotation, implementing a rule that rotating out Trustee take one full year off from serving as a Conference Officer or WSC Committee Chair before being allowed to serve in those capacities.
Rob (lead), Duane, Jay
NEW BUSINESS
2012.10.01 Audio Contract for the Conference and Convention (Ira)
Ira & KJ ~ General overview of current relationship with recorder and based on the discussion it was suggested by WSBT that WSOB should be responsible for upcoming 2013 tapings – WSOB should move forward with getting separate bids for convention vs conference.
We need referrals created for WSC Conference and Convention committees so that they include this responsibility in their individual guidelines That we ask the WSOB to draft guidelines for review & feedback by the WSBT to accompany the WSOB referral(s) so that both boards are in agreement with what the basics of any C.A. taping/recording committee guidelines and what they should entail.
Ira ~ we have a new draft audio contract. This separates conference and convention audio activity.
General discussion regarding the content of the draft audio contract
Russell ~ Motion to approve the submitted draft of the audio contract Yves ~ second
Duane ~ friendly amendment to remove ‘C.A. Artwork’ from point 9
Russell ~ accepted
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Motion reads
To approve the submitted draft with the removal of ‘C.A. Artwork’ from point 9.
Jay ~ I’d like to make a friendly amendment to allow the motion to now read
‘Motion ~ To approve the submitted draft with point 9 now reading The Company can not use in any way the C.A. Logo and/or the name Cocaine Anonymous for packaging or promotion without written permission.
Terry ~ any objections to the above amendment
All ~ no objection
Motion passes with minor opposition.
Terry ~ Due to us heading over to WSO in under an hour we are moving onto Marker Item 2012.11.03
2012.10.02 Vendor licensing (Russell)
Russell ~ Motion; To withdraw the vendor license agreement with immediate effect and the current agreements are not renewed as per our contractual rights. Ira ~ Second!
Motion fails
Russell ~ 5th concept. We are dismissing and disrespecting our traditions with regards lending the CA name to outside entities by utilizing such agreements, we have a responsibility to cease such practices.
Kenny ~ Motion to reconsider Yves ~ Second
Motion to table the reconsider until the Nov quarterly. Motion to table passes.
Rob ~ Motion to remove from the table the motion to reconsider Kenny ~ second
Motion passes
Russell ~ Motion to amend
Rob ~ second
Motion to amend passes
Russell ~ To withdraw the vendor license agreement with immediate effect allowing current agreements to expire without renewal.
Rob ~ second
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Russell, Rob and Terry gave reports from discussions with former trustees regarding the drafting of this agreement.
Motion passes with opposition.
KJ ~ 5th concept, I believe we would have benefited from WSOB input and I believe that having their input may have helped.
Jay ~ 5th concept, I believe that we should take this to the floor and clarify we did not reach substantial unanimity and ask them what they believe we should do….what do they want.
Rob ~5th concept, I believe that the importance of protecting the C.A. logo overrides any tradition issues.
2012.11.03 Allocation of Trustee for CAWS2015
Terry ~ we need to discuss which Trustee oversees CAWS2015.
KJ ~ Motion to have the TAL serve as Trustee for CAWS2015
Russell ~ Second
Motion passes with one abstention (Rob)
2012.11.04 Review of Young Persons pamphlet.
Rob ~ Motion to approve
KJ ~ second
Motion passes
2012.11.05 www.ca.org new site (KJ) note; KJ may need to bring this agenda item out of order.
2012.11.06 Issue with C.A. Scotland member Russell to proceed with love and caution.
2012.11.07 TAL Budget Discussion to look into doubling the budget at the next conference. Allowing travel to groups not represented by a regional trustee
2012.11.08 CAWSO Staff evaluation procedures
Terry ~ We do need to go offline when discussing staff salaries. Its 10.45am.
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Terry ~ Its 11am we are back on record, we do have an office manual that outlines our procedures with regards staff evaluation.
2012.11.09 Copyright costs and financial implications
2012.11.10 Audit Discussion on the need and costs for this to be continued at the next board meeting
Date for Conference call and next quarterly
Call Sunday January 13th at 10am PST
Board meeting in LA March 8-10th
WSBT Group Inventory
Close – Serenity Prayer
Meeting ends at 11:50am
CORRESPONDENCE/ RESPONSES FROM/TO THE FELLOWSHIP:
6Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by () on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 02:01:42 ————————————————————————— City: Long Beach StateProvince: CA AreaRegion: Long Beach Compton Subject: East Side Early Birds Attitude Adjustment Meeting Message: It has been brought to the attention of the Long Beach Compton District Board in regards to the continued violations of the Twelve Traditions and Twelve Concepts of this meeting located at 850 Atlantic Ave in Long Beach CA.This meeting is not following the CA format. They are in constant violation of Tradition 4. There is continuous cross talk and and numerous fist fights have broke out during the meeting. They are demonstrating a hostile environment and should be discredited as a CA group. I feel that it is time for the area to step into this matter and visit this meeting. They have done a group inventory but they still choose to run the meeting their way. Anonymous
Approved response (sent 19th Oct 2012)
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Dear Member
Thank you for your email in which you shared your concerns regarding a C.A. group in your local
District.
Our fellowships ‘World Service Manual’ page 14 clarifies the definition of a C.A. Group.
A meeting is when two or more people gather together to share their experience, strength and hope with each other.
A meeting may call itself a C.A. Group when:
- The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop using cocaine and all other mind-altering substances.
- It is fully self-supporting.
- Its primary purpose is to help addicts recover through the Twelve Steps of C.A.
- It has no outside affiliations.
- It has no opinion on outside issues.
- Its public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion.
Based upon the information given to us on the reported Tradition Four violation, we would like to refer you to that very tradition whereas it states, every group “has the right to be wrong”…”except in matters affecting other groups or C,A. as a whole.”
Many groups around the world have adopted formats that work for that group and/or their locality, allowing healthy diversity and in keeping with our traditions.
In love and service
C.A. World Service Board of Trustees
- Referral # 7091 DONE What is C.A.’s policy regarding the use of youtube as a means of reaching other addicts?
Are there any issues regarding the use of youtube as a media to publish public service announcements on their own? If there are no issues are there any guideline? Can we use if locally?
Response to #7091
Non Approved Conference PSA (Public Service Announcement) or Any other type of Video “Social networking, blogging, micro-blogging, and other tools have emerged as daily communication methods for individual members. When using these tools, we need always be mindful to not use the C.A. logo, Cocaine Anonymous name, or other registered trademarks of C.A. (e.g., “C.A.”, “Hope, Faith and Courage”, “We’re Here and We’re Free”, etc.) and to be respectful of anonymity and other spiritual principles in
Thank you for your inquiry to the use of a PSA (Public Service Announcement) via the You Tube website.
The first distinction we should clarify , is the PSA you are referring to in the referral a conference approved PSA (Public Service Announcement) or a non conference approved?
Approved Conference PSA
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The conference approved PSAs are designed and approved for Public distribution and viewing. The WSBOT see no challenges to uploading them to the You Tube website. Please take caution that the person uploading the video may be identified and precautions to ensure anonymity should be taken. There are no clear directions currently in the World Service Guidelines for the proper use of this medium. We will forward your referral to the Public Information Committee for future work.
Please refer to the paragraph below from the World Service IT Guidelines . This paragraph can be found on page 3. To summarize we suggest that members only use conference approved PSA.
“Social networking, blogging, micro-blogging, and other tools have emerged as daily communication methods for individual members. When using these tools, we need always be mindful to not use the C.A. logo, Cocaine Anonymous name, or other registered trademarks of C.A. (e.g., “C.A.”, “Hope, Faith and Courage”, “We’re Here and We’re Free”, etc.) and to be respectful of anonymity and other spiritual principles in accordance with the Twelve Traditions of C.A. It is further suggested that members refrain from posting on any of the tools mentioned above any photos and/or videos that identify any activity, entity or person as being associated with Cocaine Anonymous.”
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by () on Sunday, September 9, 2012 at 18:43:49 ————————————————————————— Name: Tracy Mathis Email: tracy.mathis@sbcglobal.net City: los angeles StateProvince: CA AreaRegion: South Central District Subject: Dark Night Message: We have regular schedule meetings @ 3801 on Sat @ 7:30 am,10:00 am And 12 noon. The 10am book study is a new addition to the facility and a couple of Sats Ago, the 7am and 12 noon meeting was closed due to a 3rd step feast. being that each meeting is autonomous accept when affecting other meetings or CA why did 3801 INC give the facilitator permision to close 2 meetings for this non approved event. 3801 INC, has no rigt getting involved in CA buisness. I have no problem with change and the 3rd step feast is new to me. I have 11yrs and this is the first time ive seen such a event interupt meetings. Im concerned that this will become a trend!!! And when does the facility have the power to dictate what and when CA meetings are being held and ran? Ive taken this to the District and the Chair and the facilitator of the book study still believes that this is ok. Can you clarify for me so that I know what the correct way to handle this Please.
Response approved (sent 28th October 2012)
Thank you for your question and concerns. While your group’s course of action will ultimately be determined by your group, following is some information that may help.
Please take a moment to read the attached NewsGram article* on page 5 titled “Clubhouses and Cocaine Anonymous.” This article will hopefully clear up the landlord tenant relationship. While clubhouses perform a necessary function for our fellowship, there is no affiliation with our fellowship. The relationship should be strictly tenant, landlord. As such, available meeting times should be negotiated between meetings and landlords. Please be mindful that the business (aka landlord) has no responsibly to C.A. as a whole but your meeting (aka tenant) does. When presenting concerns to your landlord, it may always be prudent to do so while practicing the principles of patience, kindliness, tolerance and love.
*Article is from NewsGram Vol 24, No 1 (First Quarter 2007), on page 5 which was a reprint from NewsGram Vol 13, No 3 (Third quarter 1999).
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[Attachment]
(Clubhouses and Cocaine Anonymous) that was printed in the Newsgram Vol 24, No 1 (First Quarter 2007), on page 5 was a a reprint from Newsgram Vol 13, No 3 (Third quarter 1999), Clubhouses and Cocaine Anonymous
First printed in Volume 13, No. 3 (3rd quarter 1999):
By Walter J. Atlantic South Regional Trustee
All over the country (and in other countries now), Cocaine Anonymous meetings are held in a variety of places. Some meetings are held in community rooms at local parks, some are held in meeting rooms at churches, or in hospital cafeterias. Sometimes meetings are held at clubhouses that exist specifically to provide meeting space for Twelve Step groups, and to provide clean and sober people with a place to interact socially. At last year’s C.A. World Service Conference, several referrals from the floor requested guidance and clarification about how C.A. members and groups can be involved with such clubhouses without violating our Twelve Traditions. The World Service Board of Trustees has discussed the issue at length, and this article is an attempt to explain our understanding of the proper relationship between C.A. members and any such clubhouse.
Let’s start by clearly stating that the C.A. group is Cocaine Anonymous. The group has been and remains the most effective vehicle for carrying out our primary purpose – to carry the message of recovery to the still-suffering addict. It is in the group that we recover through working the 12 Steps, learn to coexist in unity by applying the 12 Traditions, and continue to grow spiritually through service employing the 12 Concepts. C.A. members the globe over protect the group as it is the very core of our recovery today, the place where we get sober and grow together, ever more clear-sighted of
Tradition One: “Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon C.A. unity.”
The group is the C.A. foundation, not only to its members, but to the outside community as well. So any other service entity that is created through a need to serve the C.A. group should handle its affairs in such a way (with respect to C.A.’s 12 Traditions) as to enhance the effectiveness of the group to carry its message, further allowing each member the opportunity for service that may come from any group activity. It is certainly understood that some C.A. members will have a desire to participate in activities outside the C.A. group, such as clubhouses. While there will be those of us that find the C.A. group sufficient to meet our needs, other members have a desire to extend their fellowship beyond group meetings; some in fact seek a C.A. social life. We think it wise for those C.A. members that choose to participate in those outside activities to take extra care to respect the integrity of the C.A. group, ever mindful of the fact that affiliation, whether real or implied, misleads the public, confuses the newcomer, and violates C.A.’s 12 Traditions. What this means is that a C.A. member who might be involved in any way with the operation of a clubhouse should take every opportunity to remind himself and everyone else that he is doing so as an individual, not as a representative of Cocaine Anonymous.
With all that being said, let it be clearly stated that Cocaine Anonymous does not have clubhouses, although members of C.A. are free to engage in whatever outside activity they choose. In accordance with our preamble, C.A. is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization or institution, and neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Nonetheless, when outside activity is engaged in which can easily be mistaken as C.A.-affiliated, such as clubhouses run by C.A. members, caution must be advised. Remember that not only the public, but more
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importantly, C.A. newcomers may get the misconception that these clubhouses are in fact owned or operated by C.A. Consequently, outside activities such as clubhouses should be designed for those individual members who wish to participate, while the C.A. group should remain unimpeded by the activities of these outside entities. Clearly stated, the C.A. group business should in no way be associated or affiliated with any outside entities, including the clubhouses in which its meetings may be held. The Sixth Tradition states, “A C.A. group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the C.A. name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.” The tenant/landlord relationship of the C.A. group to the clubhouse should not include the co- mingling of funds. Nor is it appropriate that the landlord dictate structural parameters for the C.A. group. An outside entity deciding operational procedures for a C.A. group or the group servants’ responsibilities would be an example of a serious Tradition violation. Of course, a landlord is free to negotiate rent with any group, or to insist that certain cleanup procedures or other restrictions be respected, but should have no input on how the meeting itself is run.
Remember that the public at large will already see C.A. members heading up these outside activities and may very well view them as C.A. clubhouses. Thus, those outside entities that are so led by and aligned with C.A. members should seriously consider being guided by the 12 Traditions as well, although it is clearly understood that C.A. has no authority to instruct them to do so.
If, after reading this article, you still have questions related to clubhouses or other similar outside entities or operations, I encourage you to contact your Regional Trustee to discuss the matter further, or to send your World Service Delegate to the Conference with your questions or concerns.
In love and service
CA World Service Board of Trustess
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by () on Wednesday, September 5,
2012 at 14:57:58 ————————————————————————— Name: richard
Email: lukehurst_1@hotmail.com City: Northampton StateProvince: Northamptonshire
AreaRegion: CAUK Subject: Tradition 8 Message: Dear Trustee There has been some controversy at my local DSC regarding a member of the fellowship who is hired to provide a service, that of recording shares at CAUK events. a few members have said that this is out of order and that he should not be able to record shares and make money out of CA events and specifically selling speaker CD’s. I am of the opinion that we do hire services as per tradition 8 and pay for them services when necessary. The grey area here seems to be that the service provider contnues to earn profit, albeit very little, after the event. My feelings on this hot subject is that he provides a service the fellowship benefits from and as a result the message is carried through the selling of the cd’s to many still suffering addicts. I know he earns very little and doesn’t charge for hire or labour, what he has earned has covered fuel etc. I spoke with hi this evening ad he informed me he actually loses money and still does it out of his love for CA. I was just keen to hear your views in fellowship Richard newly appointed Delegate
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Response approved and sent 2nd November 2012 Dear Richard
Thank you for contacting your WSBT and sharing your comments and questions with us regarding this issue.
The hiring of an outside organisation to provide specific services to our fellowship is common and often misunderstood. Our fellowship sells t-shirts at conventions, fundraising events and unity day?s and therefore requires the services of a company to supply us with such merchandise, the principle is the same with recordings and CD sales with the exception that in this case the vendor continues to sell ?their? merchandise as a stock item in ?their? stock inventory without any accountability to CA.
This particular case would, in our opinion, require an agreement of such between the fellowship and the outside company. There is an issue of allowing an outside organisation to sell items and stock, for their own benefit, that carries the name of Cocaine Anonymous. We should always be mindful that our name belongs to our fellowship and should not be lent to an outside organisation for its own use unless a clear agreement has been reached between the parties involved and those asked to look after our intellectual property and copyrighted materials, in this case our name and our logo.
Our IP and Copyrighted materials are overseen by CAWSO Inc, the WSOB and the World Service Board of Trustees. Any outside organization wanting to sell items of stock that carries our name and/or logo would need to seek permission from CAWSO by way of a ?Vendor License Agreement?.
At our World Service Conventions we engage the professional services of an outside organization to record and sell CD?s of speakers and workshops and at our annual World Service Conference we also engage such services to record our conference business. This relationship is clearly defined in an agreement (contract) that allows Cocaine Anonymous to clarify the services required, the conditions of sales to our members, and also allows for us to agree to any requirements from the vendor.
There may also be an issue of affiliation (actual, implied or perceived), when dealing with an outside organization and this could be magnified when a member is involved with the professional services of the outside organization. Care should always be taken to separate membership service and professional services in instances like this.
Tradition 8 is more directed toward the fellowship directly employing or hiring members, not companies, to carry out work and getting paid by the Fellowship for the specific task at hand.
In love and service
CA World Service Board of Trustees
Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by () on Friday, September 28, 2012 at 00:25:05 —————————————————————————
Name: James Dortch Email: jamesdortch@yahoo.com City: Jackson StateProvince: TN
AreaRegion: Tennessee Subject: Donations, Grant Money
Message: The K.I.S.S. group of CA in Jackson,TN has been divided over accepting donations or grant monies. Also, there is contraversy about selling food or other fund raising activies to help facilitate the needs of the group. We know about and discuss the 7th Traditions but some of the members say there are some exceptions to the rule.
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First, the State of TN has a grant to be used for Alcohol and Drugs programs. After giving out several thousands to other Drug and Alcohol facilities, there is $480,000 left. These monies must be used or given back to the State. Some members of the group want to obtain some of that money to be used to buy a building to be used as our meeting place. Other members say that some of members –on their own, can receive that money and open up their own halfway house, which must be outside of the group. And still others say that we can’t accept any money from anywhere and that our group must be fully self supporting through our own contributions.
Second, some groups are doing some fundraising to ease the burden of the group. Some have dances, some sell raffles ticket, or cook and sell dinners and etc.
Will you please give us all the information you have about when and how to accept donations and having fundraisers? Thank you in advance for the information as we want to dispell all rumors within the group.
(Kenny lead)
James… Thank you for contacting us with your concerns. Please be assured your concerns are not taken lightly.
Your first question regarding groups receiving monies from the state of Tennessee: Our 7th Tradition tells us that every C.A. group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions. In that, no CA group should accept monies from entities outside of Cocaine Anonymous. That eliminates potential outside control and allows the group to stay focused on its primary purpose. The grant in question is for facilities that offer in patient treatment or facilities that offer outpatient or after care. The grant is not intended for 12 step groups.
As for your second concern, Our 4th Tradition states that each group should be antonymous except in matters affecting other groups or CA as a whole. Fundraisers are held all the time throughout our fellowship. There are many different types of fundraisers. Whether it is dances, bake sales, raffles, barbeques, talent shows, or most any activities that is ethical and legal. The group conscience has the authority here. We hope that your concerns were addressed sufficiently. Feel free to contact us. We are here to serve.
In Love and Service,
WSBT’
Cocaine’Anonymous’
World’Service’Board’of’Trustees’
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Referral #6880
Please address the provision of a statement of policy, with regard to “diversity” for our fellowship. This is the UK term for a policy of non-discrimination. This is not only for employees but a statement of intent/policy for our fellowship. Thank you.
Jay (lead), Russell
Action
No action taken. The WSBT believe that traditions 1 and 3 clarify our intent/policy regarding non-discrimination”
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